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Re: Recruiting
« Reply #1740 on: May 24, 2023, 03:50:09 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 24, 2023, 03:48:32 PM
The goal was to win playoff games and eventually the Super Bowl. Anyone can trade for a great player with a rookie quarterback under contract. I could do that.

If your bar for the trade was "did they win the Super Bowl?" then yeah, it was obviously a failure.

It's a fair bar to set, they were obviously going into "win now" mode.  And they were a hell of a lot better with Mack than without him, but still didn't win in the playoffs.

So did the Raiders win the Mack trade then? 
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Re: Recruiting
« Reply #1741 on: May 24, 2023, 03:50:17 PM »
They had to spend $150 million which knee capped them in free agency for several years, and spent two 1st round picks on zero playoff wins. That’s a loss. Period. Last year was the echo of that failure.
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Re: Recruiting
« Reply #1742 on: May 24, 2023, 03:51:05 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 24, 2023, 03:50:09 PM
If your bar for the trade was "did they win the Super Bowl?" then yeah, it was obviously a failure.

It's a fair bar to set, they were obviously going into "win now" mode.  And they were a hell of a lot better with Mack than without him, but still didn't win in the playoffs.

Did they win a playoff game?
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Re: Recruiting
« Reply #1743 on: May 24, 2023, 03:52:14 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 24, 2023, 03:50:17 PM
They had to spend $150 million which knee capped them in free agency for several years, and spent two 1st round picks on zero playoff wins. That’s a loss. Period. Last year was the echo of that failure.


Okay, fair.  The Raiders won the Mack trade.  They didn't fare any better, but if it makes you STFU about it, sure - the Raiders won.
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« Reply #1744 on: May 24, 2023, 03:52:28 PM »
Again, last years’ 3-13 was the dying echo of that regime and that trade. It was a failure. The funny part is Mack peaked for the Bears in the first half of his first game. A loss.
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Re: Recruiting
« Reply #1745 on: May 24, 2023, 03:54:53 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 24, 2023, 03:34:44 PM
Likes snowboarding. Trainer is buddies with coach. Pissed about being passed over out of HS.

But not Underachiever. Hmmmmmm....
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Re: Recruiting
« Reply #1746 on: May 24, 2023, 03:57:04 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 24, 2023, 03:38:38 PM
Give me an example.

I am the only dude who stands up for you here when the rest of these morons act like you thought Reggie Theus was the only answer for us, and yet you treat me just like they treat you, every single time we argue.

You make up a take, extrapolate wildly from what I actually said, and argue against that while totally disregarding the dozens of times I say "no dude that is not what I'm saying" - you don't care, you're not even listening.

You're still railing on "spark thinks Trubisky and Mahomes are comparable!" and "spark thinks Illinois and Northwestern are comparable!" and "spark thinks Illinois and Arizona State are comparable" even though you know, because I have told you a combined probably 500 times, that I didn't say or believe any of those things.  You simply don't care what I actually think or am saying, you're miles away already, running with the take YOU invented for me.

You forgot Craig Robinson. He was also part of the mix.
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Re: Recruiting
« Reply #1747 on: May 24, 2023, 03:57:51 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 24, 2023, 03:40:31 PM
Yes, both could be true. One a lot more likely than the other, though.

Do you really think the theory that he’s passing over Illinois because they are salty is at all likely? Why not just tell them to pound sand? Didn’t he make a visit? Seems overly petty to go through all that just to have the pleasure of saying “no.”

Some people play the long game. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
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Re: Recruiting
« Reply #1748 on: May 24, 2023, 03:59:26 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 24, 2023, 03:43:16 PM
Dude, I’m not going down the Trubisky hole again, but you absolutely made the case that Trubisky “was playing about as well as Mahomes” and used stats to do it. I have to paraphrase because it was so long ago and that whole conversation was scrubbed. It was a ridiculous take then, and looks even way more ridiculous now.

Question: do you still think the Bears won the Khalil Mack trade?

Says "not going down Trubisky hole again" then proceeds to go down Trubisky hole, again.
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Re: Recruiting
« Reply #1749 on: May 24, 2023, 04:39:24 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 24, 2023, 03:59:26 PM
Says "not going down Trubisky hole again" then proceeds to go down Trubisky hole, again.

I posted once about Trubisky (and the Mahomes take).
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Re: Recruiting
« Reply #1750 on: May 24, 2023, 04:40:04 PM »
I consider a “hole” deeper than one post. YMMV.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Recruiting
« Reply #1751 on: May 24, 2023, 04:41:10 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 24, 2023, 03:52:14 PM

Okay, fair.  The Raiders won the Mack trade.  They didn't fare any better, but if it makes you STFU about it, sure - the Raiders won.

What the Raiders did with those picks is pretty inconsequential to the Bears. It had no outcome on the Bears whatsoever.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Recruiting
« Reply #1752 on: May 24, 2023, 04:42:06 PM »
What’s Trubisky’s 3pt shooting percentage? How are his handles?
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« Reply #1753 on: May 24, 2023, 04:46:24 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 24, 2023, 03:38:38 PM
Give me an example.

I am the only dude who stands up for you here when the rest of these morons act like you thought Reggie Theus was the only answer for us, and yet you treat me just like they treat you, every single time we argue.

You make up a take, extrapolate wildly from what I actually said, and argue against that while totally disregarding the dozens of times I say "no dude that is not what I'm saying" - you don't care, you're not even listening.

You're still railing on "spark thinks Trubisky and Mahomes are comparable!" and "spark thinks Illinois and Northwestern are comparable!" and "spark thinks Illinois and Arizona State are comparable" even though you know, because I have told you a combined probably 500 times, that I didn't say or believe any of those things.  You simply don't care what I actually think or am saying, you're miles away already, running with the take YOU invented for me.

And I appreciate that. I also called you smart and a good dude two hours ago. I think you genuinely come from an honest place, but sometimes act like any little bit of criticism is a call to fire the coach and burn the program down. You’re a bit hyper-sensitive sometimes. And again, you twist and misrepresent my opinions all of the time. So please don’t act like I’m the only one that does it. It’s an effective debate tactic when all we have is this forum, and explaining our positions is harder than it might be in person. I expect some of that tbh.
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« Reply #1754 on: May 24, 2023, 04:47:06 PM »
Quote from: Miles Leonard on May 24, 2023, 04:42:06 PM
What’s Trubisky’s 3pt shooting percentage? How are his handles?

Is he from the suburbs?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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