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Let's talk about something we all can agree on...

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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2160 on: October 13, 2024, 12:49:05 PM »
Tell me how Megan Fox has three sons that she dresses all three up as daughters. All three under 12 years old. It’s her, she has the mental illness, not the kids.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2161 on: October 13, 2024, 12:56:09 PM »
Gender Dysphoria might be a disorder, but the treatment for adults is what? Does making them cisgender work?

It looks like it's unknown if it is a biological or mental disorder. Evidence points to the former, that gender identity forms in the womb.

Gender Dysphoria in children is evidently separate issue and there is disagreement about treatment.

That's based on what I am reading.

Edit: cross dressing is diverse gender expression, not considered a disorder.

Feeling like a woman trapped in male body and being okay with it is diverse gender identity, not considered a disorder.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2162 on: October 13, 2024, 01:07:09 PM »
Tell me how Megan Fox has three sons that she dresses all three up as daughters. All three under 12 years old. It’s her, she has the mental illness, not the kids.

This is complicated as fuck. Gender expression, gender identity, and gender dysphoria are all different things. Having diverse gender expression or identity aren't considered disorders.

Gender dysphoria is a disorder, likely biological.

What you describe sounds like diverse gender expression. Kind of weird, but not a mental disorder.
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« Reply #2163 on: October 13, 2024, 01:09:21 PM »
They are all 200 years old?

Didn’t think you’d understand.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #2164 on: October 13, 2024, 01:11:12 PM »
This is complicated as fuck. Gender expression, gender identity, and gender dysphoria are all different things. Having diverse gender expression or identity aren't considered disorders.

Gender dysphoria is a disorder, likely biological.

What you describe sounds like diverse gender expression. Kind of weird, but not a mental disorder.

Here’s a few words… insanity and child abuse.
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« Reply #2165 on: October 13, 2024, 01:11:30 PM »
Didn’t think you’d understand.

Didn't think you would have an actual response.
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« Reply #2166 on: October 13, 2024, 01:26:21 PM »
Here’s a few words… insanity and child abuse.

Gotta love the hard right. They are libertarian until someone deviates from some of their moral values. Then they want the morality police to intervene.
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« Reply #2167 on: October 13, 2024, 01:30:49 PM »
Here’s a few words… insanity and child abuse.

Certainly not child abuse in any kind of legal sense.

Also, what you or I consider insanity, as an emotional response, is not the same as what a psychiatrist would objectively diagnose.
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« Reply #2168 on: October 13, 2024, 01:32:51 PM »
Certainly not child abuse in any kind of legal sense.

Also, what you or I consider insanity, as an emotional response, is not the same as what a psychiatrist would objectively diagnose.

Yeah what she’s doing is totally normal! 👍🏼 👌🏼
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« Reply #2169 on: October 13, 2024, 01:41:19 PM »
Yeah what she’s doing is totally normal! 👍🏼 👌🏼

What you call abnormal some call diverse.

It's not my cup of tea.

Tolerance means to endure that which we find offensive, insulting, annoying, etc., but doesn't actually harm us.
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« Reply #2170 on: October 13, 2024, 01:56:09 PM »
Gotta love the hard right. They are libertarian until someone deviates from some of their moral values. Then they want the morality police to intervene.

Good point that will get lost here, Nichi.
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« Reply #2171 on: October 13, 2024, 02:24:54 PM »
Gotta love the hard right. They are libertarian until someone deviates from some of their moral values. Then they want the morality police to intervene.

Maybe they are better at noticing bullshit when they see it
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« Reply #2172 on: October 13, 2024, 02:26:14 PM »
Good point that will get lost here, Nichi.

Yeah because it’s ridiculous. Hey I’ve got three boys, but wanted girls (or for attention), so I’ll dress them all up like girls! That sure won’t fuck them up for the rest of their life!
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« Reply #2173 on: October 13, 2024, 04:24:11 PM »
Odd because I never said or implied seeking equality is polarizing. I said the group itself is polarizing, which isn’t arguable. Most people don’t even care about the gay stuff, but the insane gender ideology stuff is where a lot of people have drawn the line. Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder and should be treated as such, not celebrated as some inspirational bravery. They 100% should have equality.

Physical disabilities are a disorder and should be treated as such, why the fuck do we have the paralympics.

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« Reply #2174 on: October 13, 2024, 04:24:56 PM »
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) was first published in 1952. Homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder until 1973.

Asexuality was classified as a mental disorder until 2013.

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