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Let's talk about something we all can agree on...

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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1215 on: December 10, 2023, 03:33:25 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 10, 2023, 03:32:16 PM
Absolutely no one has cracked down on the political left on college campuses 😂 what the fuck?! If anything they have on the right and encouraged the extreme left and squad to run rampant on the quad.

Criticism of the political left....
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1216 on: December 10, 2023, 03:35:33 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 10, 2023, 03:33:11 PM
"What Stefanik was demanding was the wholesale ban on rhetoric and ideas that Jews find threatening, regardless of context. A university should protect students from being mobbed or having their classes occupied and disrupted. But should it protect them from an op-ed in the student newspaper calling to globalize the intifada? Or a demonstration in an open space demanding “From the river to the sea”? That would entail wholesale violations of free speech, which, in addition to the moral problem it would create, would likely backfire by making pro-Palestinian activism a kind of forbidden rebellion rather than (as many students currently find it) an irritant." -- Ibid

Maybe that's what the right wing wants?

Maybe they want consistency?

You are triggering me with your hateful citing of these ideas. Please cease and desist.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1217 on: December 10, 2023, 03:37:31 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 10, 2023, 03:33:25 PM
Criticism of the political left....

Ah ok, I must’ve misinterpreted what was being conveyed. My bad.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1218 on: December 10, 2023, 03:40:57 PM »
Suppressing wing nut conservatism on liberal campuses has backfired and given it an air of legitimacy.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1219 on: December 10, 2023, 03:43:17 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 10, 2023, 03:40:57 PM
Suppressing wing nut conservatism on liberal campuses has backfired and given it an air of legitimacy.

Shocking. It also proven the hypocrisy of campus leadership.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1220 on: December 10, 2023, 04:57:37 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 10, 2023, 03:43:17 PM
Shocking. It also proven the hypocrisy of campus leadership.

I would add pretentiousness and shallowness.

They are belated but not wrong about the legal distinction between words and deeds.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1221 on: December 10, 2023, 04:59:34 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 10, 2023, 04:57:37 PM
I would add pretentiousness and shallowness.

They are belated but not wrong about the legal distinction between words and deeds.

True.

They've come to Jesus a little late, as you mentioned.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1222 on: December 10, 2023, 06:50:13 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 10, 2023, 02:06:44 PM
I was referring to the article.

Chait has been one of the most reliable free speech hawks on the left. He's been speaking out on this issue for years.

His recent commentary in the New York Magazine rightfully focused on the issues brought up in the congressional hearing on campus antisemitism, which had received widespread press coverage.  Many pundits have been weighing in.

I appreciate that he got into weeds.  And this won't be his last word on the topic.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1223 on: December 10, 2023, 08:42:03 PM »
Congress should be talking about principles and action ideas. Not engaging in hostile  rhetoric and playing gotcha games.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1224 on: December 10, 2023, 08:46:14 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 10, 2023, 08:42:03 PM
Congress should be talking about principles and action ideas. Not engaging in hostile  rhetoric and playing gotcha games.

Universities, those  getting federal money at a minimum, should stop acting hypocritically.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1225 on: December 10, 2023, 09:25:01 PM »
Get ready for campus riots.

Elect Trump, he initiates neo-McCarthyism, things could get ugly.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1226 on: December 11, 2023, 12:40:46 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 10, 2023, 09:25:01 PM

Elect Trump, he initiates neo-McCarthyism, things could get ugly.

lol what
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1227 on: December 11, 2023, 06:17:01 AM »
The advocates for free speech scoff at the idea that governmental agencies have engaged in censuring of conservative voices while the normalizing of the pro-Palestinian position is being used to minimize the atrocities committed by Hamas.

Muh free speech, but not yours.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1228 on: December 11, 2023, 01:27:18 PM »
Quote from: Mn on December 11, 2023, 06:17:01 AM
Muh free speech, but not yours.

Like equating any criticism of Israeli policies with antisemitism?
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #1229 on: December 11, 2023, 01:50:49 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 11, 2023, 01:27:18 PM
Like equating any criticism of Israeli policies with antisemitism?
The 3 university Presidents were not addressing the issue of groups criticizing Israeli policies in their questioning by Stefanik.
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