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Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #420 on: April 27, 2021, 11:19:39 AM »
It’s kind of interesting Chin was brought on to be the ace Chicago recruiter (and bring Ayo with him) yet it’s looking like we won’t even have a Chicagoland kid anywhere near the rotation next year.

I actually think this is the program finally adapting to the longtime reality that the better Illinois players do not have an allegiance to Illinois.
That is why going regionally, nationally, and internationally is so important and why OA is so important.
I also think getting the better international and east coast city players get you more higher IQ players like Feliz and Curbelo, even a Giorgi.


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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #421 on: April 27, 2021, 12:59:04 PM »
I actually think this is the program finally adapting to the longtime reality that the better Illinois players do not have an allegiance to Illinois.
That is why going regionally, nationally, and internationally is so important and why OA is so important.
I also think getting the better international and east coast city players get you more higher IQ players like Feliz and Curbelo, even a Giorgi.

The footprint if you will should be capitalize on the diversity which is the University of Illinois student populace and get the international players as we are currently and in the future. I have said for many years, the athletic 6-5/6-10 players, ala, Flying illini type of players, and the general recruiting of international players such as Gonzaga has built there program on is the only 2 ways to go with how the game has changed.

The Flying ILLINI class was well ahead of it's time in type of players, type of game, and of course the shorts also...which by the way the Fab 5 themselves...Webber and Rose specifically has attributted to taking the trend from them.

We desperately need those athletes and the international blend to make this program truly Tops in the land long term.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #422 on: April 27, 2021, 01:22:57 PM »
I actually think this is the program finally adapting to the longtime reality that the better Illinois players do not have an allegiance to Illinois.
That is why going regionally, nationally, and internationally is so important and why OA is so important.
I also think getting the better international and east coast city players get you more higher IQ players like Feliz and Curbelo, even a Giorgi.

Worked really well for Joey Meyer at DePaul.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #423 on: April 27, 2021, 02:17:51 PM »
KY people still claiming they are getting both guys

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #424 on: April 27, 2021, 02:22:49 PM »
KY people still claiming they are getting both guys

Is the info you are getting more real time or believed to be more accurate?
KY has been acting like this is done deal for several days.
If it was such a done deal, then why hasn't KY announced???


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« Reply #425 on: April 27, 2021, 02:23:44 PM »
Is the info you are getting more real time or believed to be more accurate?
KY has been acting like this is done deal for several days.
If it was such a done deal, then why hasn't KY announced???

probably because its off season click bait?
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #426 on: April 27, 2021, 02:25:11 PM »
Is the info you are getting more real time or believed to be more accurate?
KY has been acting like this is done deal for several days.
If it was such a done deal, then why hasn't KY announced???

I don’t believe the KY side. There’s always a chance guys tell both sides what they want to hear though. Id bet on Chin leaving right now. Antigua I’m not sure , that’s a ton of cash to stay put

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #427 on: April 27, 2021, 02:30:53 PM »
probably because its off season click bait?

Dunno. They have asst leaving for sure, so it is important for them I would think. Their fanbase is likely more involved than ours.


On a side note, we are paying OA $10k a week. We are not paying him to conduct a bidding war.


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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #428 on: April 27, 2021, 02:32:53 PM »
I don’t believe the KY side. There’s always a chance guys tell both sides what they want to hear though. Id bet on Chin leaving right now. Antigua I’m not sure , that’s a ton of cash to stay put


Well,  dragging this out isn't great, but the longer it goes the better for us I would think.


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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #429 on: April 27, 2021, 02:33:43 PM »
It worked out with Bill Self, right?

We lowballed, he bailed and we both won national championships and 15 straight conference titles.

And we still only have to pay our coach $635k annually.

I mean, is it really worth putting together a substantive response to someone who just compared Orlando Antigua to Bill Self?

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« Reply #430 on: April 27, 2021, 02:57:15 PM »
I mean, is it really worth putting together a substantive response to someone who just compared Orlando Antigua to Bill Self?
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #431 on: April 27, 2021, 03:04:36 PM »
Spark has been en fuego when he does come back to.comment. Reminds me of Michael Kopech. That guy seems to have developed a real edge to himself since his injury and taking the COVID year off due to his "domestic issues"...
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« Reply #432 on: April 27, 2021, 03:26:13 PM »
I think we are doing the right thing here.
Otherwise we will remain a second tier p5 program trying to climb up the lobster barrel.

Michigan (and MSU) are both in Top 10 nationally in '21 and are ahead of others in recruiting in BT.
Michigan has #1 ranked class in nation added to whoever stays there.

We are 29th nationally in 2021 and that will be our on court ceiling range moving forward year in and year out unless we keep OA.
Luckily we have a Top 50 guy in Curbelo to run the show and some returning vets and transfers this year and we might surprise in 21-22 a little bit.
2022 has two 3 star guys- both who look like likely risers, but you do not make a living on guys outplaying their rankings. 

Recruiting is going to be a crazy hybrid of HS and transfers moving forward. You need guys with a lot of contacts and relationships.




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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #433 on: April 27, 2021, 05:20:12 PM »
https://247sports.com/college/kentucky/Article/Kentucky-basketball-coaching-staff-Orlando-Antigua-Chin-Coleman-164719509/


This KY writer very confident this is a done deal for OA, and likely Coleman.
See the comments section.

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #434 on: April 27, 2021, 05:26:43 PM »
https://247sports.com/college/kentucky/Article/Kentucky-basketball-coaching-staff-Orlando-Antigua-Chin-Coleman-164719509/


This KY writer very confident this is a done deal for OA, and likely Coleman.
See the comments section.

Why post it now, after all the internet rumors etc? Seems to me the university could be covering themselves as to say "Hey we posted this for everyone to apply"? But if that were the case, then why after the OA and Chin debacle? If anything, posting now seems to tell me they are not so sure anymore as they might have once been?
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