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WTF did Trump do to the stock market?

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #300 on: April 20, 2020, 02:28:10 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 20, 2020, 01:17:24 PM
Quote from: Mn on April 20, 2020, 01:15:03 PM
Quote from: ridingthegrange on April 20, 2020, 12:32:56 PM
Quote from: Mn on April 20, 2020, 11:25:25 AM
I suppose small business owners from International Falls to Blue Earth who have shut down their never to re-open businesses, and their laid off forever employees who now face a very uncertain future, are included in the protesters who aren't from Minneapolis ?
Minneapolis doesn't have a governor, but the state does, and the governor of the state is in Minneapolis-St Paul. When you no longer have a job and aren't ready to see if the local Wal-Mart is hiring, you might be ok with a road trip.
The protesters are a bunch of out of state wingnut hicks who travelled in is a much cooler story tho. If they would have only moved to California, they could have seen the error of their ways and been more educated, learn to work harder and know to take things more seriously.

There's a bit of truth in this.  Probably are some rural small business folks that may have a gripe.  But you have to admit , on the surface it looks like an NRA/Militia gathering funded and promoted by far right causes.  One things for sure, all these "Don't tread on me" types wrapped in their flags can't touch the patriotism  or courage of an ER nurse.  Ask the nurses what they think of these guys.
Small businesses are urban and rural. Small business owners are of all different political leanings. People facing financial devastation are urban and rural, and of different political leanings. There are most likely some of each who have no political leanings.
The prospects of a depression have not been eliminated, and some of these people dont want to see one.
A "dont tread on me" type flag bearer may have also been to Viet Nam or the Middle East. I have the utmost respect for ER nurses and would never ask one how they feel about someone they may know little, or nothing, about.

Unilaterally these events have been draped in two flags.

TRUMP and the Stars and Bars.

Certainly many people are financially hurting and feel a need to go to work, but most of the folks I’ve seen in these protests don’t mention this.  Most seem irritated at the inconvenience and are arguing for their individual “free-dumb.”   As Patrick Henry said, “Give me free refills, or give me death!”

Ironically, the conservative approach here, lacking robust virus testing/tracing, is to follow social distancing and shelter in place orders. 
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #301 on: April 20, 2020, 02:29:06 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 20, 2020, 02:12:52 AM
Quote from: Custard on April 19, 2020, 10:17:12 PM
Man this is all so elementary I kind of feel bad you spent that much time thinking and typing that out.

In our small town, elderly people mostly sequestered themselves around March 10, as my own grandmother did. She hasn’t left her home since. The churches and citizens volunteered to deliver all the basic needs, peace meals, etc to those at risk or unable to safely get their own goods. Gloves and now masks are worn for delivery and are changed between deliveries.

I would really like to see some national data that shows the foot traffic density per “essential business”

FFS I remember all the Trib articles a few years ago after Dominick’s closed about all the “Food Deserts” in the heart of Chicago. What about those people?

I see - they just sent all the younger people out to protest, in close quarters, with no masks, calling the government a bunch of overreachers and the pandemic a hoax? While they left grandma at home out of worry? Maybe they're out of a job and being a$troturfed.

If your anecdote it true, it's a tribute to your town. It's clearly not universal nor typical.

The discussion of Food Desert wasn't so much that is "no food", it's that there is "very little healthy food". A lot of Dollar Stores and convenience marts there too, but in Lincoln there is an IGA that's hobbling on its last legs, WalMart, and the Dollar Store. There used to a Kroger and a Jewel as well as a couple butchers and other specialty stores. Now, it's a 50/30/20 split WM/DS/IGA - with nominally the same amount of people going through fewer doors, in fewer aisles, sharing fewer carts.

That sort of consolidation isn't as readily apparent in more urban or even suburban areas.

I get what you’re saying but I think there’s a lot of hypothesis here and not a lot of actual fact. My personal experience in a small town in Illinois directly contradicts what you believe to be happening based on personal bias and feedback from your family in Lincoln or whatever. I can’t imagine my town is just a one-off situation either.

And from the little research I’ve done, grocery stores in urban and suburban areas typically have higher shopper density than exurban and rural areas due to higher land and labor costs. Economics dictate that they need to have more throughput per store to be remain viable.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #302 on: April 20, 2020, 02:43:25 PM »
I hadn’t even heard anything about the protestors until I read this thread. They could be trying to clown the “don’t tread on me types” they could just be rabble rousers, they could be fringe lunatics, but I certainly wouldn’t use these idiots’ actions to justify lashing out at an entire segment of Americans anymore than I’d have used the often destructive BLM protests to justify lashing out at all black people.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #303 on: April 20, 2020, 03:10:17 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 20, 2020, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 20, 2020, 02:12:52 AM
Quote from: Custard on April 19, 2020, 10:17:12 PM
Man this is all so elementary I kind of feel bad you spent that much time thinking and typing that out.

In our small town, elderly people mostly sequestered themselves around March 10, as my own grandmother did. She hasn’t left her home since. The churches and citizens volunteered to deliver all the basic needs, peace meals, etc to those at risk or unable to safely get their own goods. Gloves and now masks are worn for delivery and are changed between deliveries.

I would really like to see some national data that shows the foot traffic density per “essential business”

FFS I remember all the Trib articles a few years ago after Dominick’s closed about all the “Food Deserts” in the heart of Chicago. What about those people?

I see - they just sent all the younger people out to protest, in close quarters, with no masks, calling the government a bunch of overreachers and the pandemic a hoax? While they left grandma at home out of worry? Maybe they're out of a job and being a$troturfed.

If your anecdote it true, it's a tribute to your town. It's clearly not universal nor typical.

The discussion of Food Desert wasn't so much that is "no food", it's that there is "very little healthy food". A lot of Dollar Stores and convenience marts there too, but in Lincoln there is an IGA that's hobbling on its last legs, WalMart, and the Dollar Store. There used to a Kroger and a Jewel as well as a couple butchers and other specialty stores. Now, it's a 50/30/20 split WM/DS/IGA - with nominally the same amount of people going through fewer doors, in fewer aisles, sharing fewer carts.

That sort of consolidation isn't as readily apparent in more urban or even suburban areas.

I get what you’re saying but I think there’s a lot of hypothesis here and not a lot of actual fact. My personal experience in a small town in Illinois directly contradicts what you believe to be happening based on personal bias and feedback from your family in Lincoln or whatever. I can’t imagine my town is just a one-off situation either.

And from the little research I’ve done, grocery stores in urban and suburban areas typically have higher shopper density than exurban and rural areas due to higher land and labor costs. Economics dictate that they need to have more throughput per store to be remain viable.

This nonetheless means that the virus spread geographically is slowed. From our place in Mountain View, there are like 6 Costcos in a 15 mile radius. From Lincoln, there are Sam's Clubs in Peoria, Bloomington, Decatur, and Springfield. You have multiple counties all shopping at one store, then bringing it back to their home base. New Holland itself, the only thing you can buy is a John Deere Tractor - you can't even buy a coke in the zip code (maybe there's a coke machine in the John Deere Store)
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #304 on: April 20, 2020, 03:13:35 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 20, 2020, 03:10:17 PM
Quote from: Custard on April 20, 2020, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 20, 2020, 02:12:52 AM
Quote from: Custard on April 19, 2020, 10:17:12 PM
Man this is all so elementary I kind of feel bad you spent that much time thinking and typing that out.

In our small town, elderly people mostly sequestered themselves around March 10, as my own grandmother did. She hasn’t left her home since. The churches and citizens volunteered to deliver all the basic needs, peace meals, etc to those at risk or unable to safely get their own goods. Gloves and now masks are worn for delivery and are changed between deliveries.

I would really like to see some national data that shows the foot traffic density per “essential business”

FFS I remember all the Trib articles a few years ago after Dominick’s closed about all the “Food Deserts” in the heart of Chicago. What about those people?

I see - they just sent all the younger people out to protest, in close quarters, with no masks, calling the government a bunch of overreachers and the pandemic a hoax? While they left grandma at home out of worry? Maybe they're out of a job and being a$troturfed.

If your anecdote it true, it's a tribute to your town. It's clearly not universal nor typical.

The discussion of Food Desert wasn't so much that is "no food", it's that there is "very little healthy food". A lot of Dollar Stores and convenience marts there too, but in Lincoln there is an IGA that's hobbling on its last legs, WalMart, and the Dollar Store. There used to a Kroger and a Jewel as well as a couple butchers and other specialty stores. Now, it's a 50/30/20 split WM/DS/IGA - with nominally the same amount of people going through fewer doors, in fewer aisles, sharing fewer carts.

That sort of consolidation isn't as readily apparent in more urban or even suburban areas.

I get what you’re saying but I think there’s a lot of hypothesis here and not a lot of actual fact. My personal experience in a small town in Illinois directly contradicts what you believe to be happening based on personal bias and feedback from your family in Lincoln or whatever. I can’t imagine my town is just a one-off situation either.

And from the little research I’ve done, grocery stores in urban and suburban areas typically have higher shopper density than exurban and rural areas due to higher land and labor costs. Economics dictate that they need to have more throughput per store to be remain viable.

This nonetheless means that the virus spread geographically is slowed. From our place in Mountain View, there are like 6 Costcos in a 15 mile radius. From Lincoln, there are Sam's Clubs in Peoria, Bloomington, Decatur, and Springfield. You have multiple counties all shopping at one store, then bringing it back to their home base. New Holland itself, the only thing you can buy is a John Deere Tractor - you can't even buy a coke in the zip code (maybe there's a coke machine in the John Deere Store)

You’d think they’d sell New Holland tractors in New Holland
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #305 on: April 20, 2020, 03:38:01 PM »
The Minnesotans I talk with and see interviewed on tv don't hide behind flags and NRA banners. They're social distancing, and concerned about health. And health includes physical health, their family's economic health and the country's economic health.
I doubt if they hid their flags for the tv interviews to talk about closing their businesses and laying off employees.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #306 on: April 20, 2020, 03:59:23 PM »
Quote from: Mn on April 20, 2020, 03:38:01 PM
The Minnesotans I talk with and see interviewed on tv don't hide behind flags and NRA banners. They're social distancing, and concerned about health. And health includes physical health, their family's economic health and the country's economic health.
I doubt if they hid their flags for the tv interviews to talk about closing their businesses and laying off employees.
https://img.apmcdn.org/4e0b4b3e006a59dd44fb8068954c0f17db5b652c/uncropped/14f5db-20200417-liberate-mn-protest-10.jpg

Walz has no Ballz is a nice touch

https://www.twincities.com/2020/04/17/trump-tweet-supports-protest-at-minnesota-governors-home/
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #307 on: April 20, 2020, 04:16:57 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 20, 2020, 01:52:43 PM
Quote from: ILLove1997 on April 20, 2020, 01:26:04 PM
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ILLove lives in Washoe County NV, which is not particularly dense, and they have a higher per capita infection than San Francisco County, despite not being an international hub of any note. Clinton County IL is "the sticks" and they have 117 cases per 100k people, which is higher than Santa Clara County which was one of the first major epicenters.

did you know that Washoe County is larger than the state of Connecticut?

But anyway, its basically 3 sort of dense cities and then nothingness... the dense stuff is along a major truck/train route from California ports and has a lot of casino/warehouse workers

a lot of people here are taking things seriously though and I see lots staying in and those that are out wearing masks, not sure where the cases are hitting the hardest but I know we had a nursing home get infected

662 cases and 19 deaths in a region of like 470k+ people isn't that crazy IMO especially considering we get a lot of travelers from San Francisco

Three cities - Reno, Sparks, and Black Rock City :)

It's pretty funny that you say "It's not that crazy, we get a lot of people from San Francisco" - when San Francisco has a lower per capita infection rate....

per capita yes, still a lot of cases overall though

still surprised burning man got cancelled, but i guess a lot of planning goes into it before it takes place in september
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #308 on: April 20, 2020, 04:19:07 PM »
strange that wanting to return to work is a political football these days

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #309 on: April 20, 2020, 05:37:49 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on April 20, 2020, 04:19:07 PM
strange that wanting to return to work is a political football these days

Alt Right guys don't have much to do these days I guess.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #310 on: April 20, 2020, 06:33:00 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 20, 2020, 05:37:49 PM
Quote from: ILLove1997 on April 20, 2020, 04:19:07 PM
strange that wanting to return to work is a political football these days

Alt Right guys don't have much to do these days I guess.


Pro-Gun Activists Push Anti-Quarantine Protests
“A trio of far-right, pro-gun provocateurs is behind some of the largest Facebook groups calling for anti-quarantine protests around the country, offering the latest illustration that some seemingly organic demonstrations are being engineered by a network of conservative activists,” the Washington Post reports.

“The Facebook groups target Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York, and they appear to be the work of Ben Dorr, the political director of a group called ‘Minnesota Gun Rights,’ and his siblings, Christopher and Aaron. By Sunday, the groups had roughly 200,000 members combined, and they continued to expand quickly, days after President Trump endorsed such protests by suggesting citizens should ‘liberate’ their states.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/19/pro-gun-activists-using-facebook-groups-push-anti-quarantine-protests/

You can have my gun when you take it from my cold dead hand...cough...cough...
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #311 on: April 20, 2020, 08:55:41 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 20, 2020, 05:37:49 PM
Alt Right guys don't have much to do these days I guess.

When the virus hits St. Petersburg, those guys are fucked.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #312 on: April 20, 2020, 11:00:34 PM »
Quote from: fucking on April 20, 2020, 08:55:41 PM
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 20, 2020, 05:37:49 PM
Alt Right guys don't have much to do these days I guess.

When the virus hits St. Petersburg, those guys are fucked.

Drudge linking to stories about Putin keeping a low profile as things get worse over there and having filmed meetings and speeches in advance that are being rolled out slowly over time.
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« Reply #313 on: April 21, 2020, 10:42:12 AM »
Dude knows how to dictate.
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« Reply #314 on: April 21, 2020, 01:28:46 PM »
I mean let’s be honest humanity needs a good moldboard plowing once in a while.
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