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WTF did Trump do to the stock market?

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2020, 06:48:08 PM »
I mean, if it's the CCP's fault, why aren't we calling it the CCP virus?

And, better question, how did the CCP stop us from being able to appropriately manage a pandemic?
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2020, 08:35:53 PM »
Fortunately we can know with certainty that it wasn’t caused by the CCP because it’s a virus. I am, however, deeply concerned that in the future governments might start creating and testing viral and bacterial weaponry.  🙏🏻
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2020, 10:35:57 PM »
The debate over whether governments, media and people should use the term “Chinese Virus” has been a little sideshow.  However, it’s secondary to our efforts to flatten the curve, as others have pointed out.   A growing number of racist attacks against Asian-Americans in the U.S. since the outbreak has also been reported in the news media.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/us/coronavirus-racist-attacks-against-asian-americans/index.html

We need to cool things down, get focused and work together to fight the spread of the coronavirus.  I also think we should be thinking long term.   The evidence of China’s mishandling and cover-up of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan is a matter of public record.   I know we all want its authoritarian regime to be held accountable in some way after the crisis is over.  I also think many Chinese citizens want the same thing, including more open and transparent public institutions.

But labeling the virus as the “Chinese Virus” helps open the door for China’s leadership to stir up nationalistic feelings and shift blame that the country is being besieged from abroad.   This will make it harder in the future for Chinese citizens to demand a more representative government that makes public health and communication a priority.   It will also make it harder for the U.S. and other world leaders to demand more effective international policies that contain and reduce the potential for global pandemics.   
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2020, 12:18:19 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on March 21, 2020, 10:35:57 PM
The debate over whether governments, media and people should use the term “Chinese Virus” has been a little sideshow.  However, it’s secondary to our efforts to flatten the curve, as others have pointed out.   A growing number of racist attacks against Asian-Americans in the U.S. since the outbreak has also been reported in the news media.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/us/coronavirus-racist-attacks-against-asian-americans/index.html

We need to cool things down, get focused and work together to fight the spread of the coronavirus.  I also think we should be thinking long term.   The evidence of China’s mishandling and cover-up of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan is a matter of public record.   I know we all want its authoritarian regime to be held accountable in some way after the crisis is over.  I also think many Chinese citizens want the same thing, including more open and transparent public institutions.

But labeling the virus as the “Chinese Virus” helps open the door for China’s leadership to stir up nationalistic feelings and shift blame that the country is being besieged from abroad.   This will make it harder in the future for Chinese citizens to demand a more representative government that makes public health and communication a priority.   It will also make it harder for the U.S. and other world leaders to demand more effective international policies that contain and reduce the potential for global pandemics.

Well that’s exactly what they want you to think. 
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2020, 08:07:07 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on March 21, 2020, 10:35:57 PM
The debate over whether governments, media and people should use the term “Chinese Virus” has been a little sideshow.  However, it’s secondary to our efforts to flatten the curve, as others have pointed out.   A growing number of racist attacks against Asian-Americans in the U.S. since the outbreak has also been reported in the news media.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/us/coronavirus-racist-attacks-against-asian-americans/index.html

We need to cool things down, get focused and work together to fight the spread of the coronavirus.  I also think we should be thinking long term.   The evidence of China’s mishandling and cover-up of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan is a matter of public record.   I know we all want its authoritarian regime to be held accountable in some way after the crisis is over.  I also think many Chinese citizens want the same thing, including more open and transparent public institutions.

But labeling the virus as the “Chinese Virus” helps open the door for China’s leadership to stir up nationalistic feelings and shift blame that the country is being besieged from abroad.   This will make it harder in the future for Chinese citizens to demand a more representative government that makes public health and communication a priority.   It will also make it harder for the U.S. and other world leaders to demand more effective international policies that contain and reduce the potential for global pandemics.

I watched the subway video.
Somebody "overheard" ........
The person wearing the mask "appeared to be Asian"
This is an example of anti-Asian sentiment ?
This could also be a story about a guy and his friend having a little disagreement about the std she gave him. And maybe the "diseased bitch" isn't Asian at all.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2020, 08:13:16 AM »
Hey man, people have an agenda!
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2020, 10:31:07 AM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on March 21, 2020, 06:48:08 PM


And, better question, how did the CCP stop us from being able to appropriately manage a pandemic?

Seeking help from the world's medical communities for a virus with no immunity, treatment, or vaccine rather than arresting the members of the medical community who were trying to warn the world and letting 30,000 people fly out of Wuhan daily would have been a good start.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2020, 01:13:55 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 22, 2020, 12:18:19 AM
Quote from: alum74 on March 21, 2020, 10:35:57 PM
The debate over whether governments, media and people should use the term “Chinese Virus” has been a little sideshow.  However, it’s secondary to our efforts to flatten the curve, as others have pointed out.   A growing number of racist attacks against Asian-Americans in the U.S. since the outbreak has also been reported in the news media.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/us/coronavirus-racist-attacks-against-asian-americans/index.html

We need to cool things down, get focused and work together to fight the spread of the coronavirus.  I also think we should be thinking long term.   The evidence of China’s mishandling and cover-up of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan is a matter of public record.   I know we all want its authoritarian regime to be held accountable in some way after the crisis is over.  I also think many Chinese citizens want the same thing, including more open and transparent public institutions.

But labeling the virus as the “Chinese Virus” helps open the door for China’s leadership to stir up nationalistic feelings and shift blame that the country is being besieged from abroad.   This will make it harder in the future for Chinese citizens to demand a more representative government that makes public health and communication a priority.   It will also make it harder for the U.S. and other world leaders to demand more effective international policies that contain and reduce the potential for global pandemics.

Well that’s exactly what they want you to think.

The Chinese government does not care one iota about what I, you or the average American thinks right now about influenza pandemic.   Its leaders are laser-focused on controlling the narrative on the home front to cover-up their early denials and mishandling of the coronavirus.   It’s what authoritarian governments do. 

Chinese officials have even latched on to the latest local conspiracy theory, blaming the U.S. military for bringing the virus to Wuhan. (See: https://qz.com/1817736/china-fuels-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-blaming-us-army/).  That type of campaign is not exactly going to “win [our] hearts and minds” here in the U.S.

No, the tit-for-tat over the name for the virus is just part of a larger effort by both the Chinese and U.S. governments to deflect criticism from their own mistakes and underperformance in dealing with the virus.   Both countries need to ratchet down the petty sniping and focus on what their people need – an effective response to an unparalleled public health and economic international crisis.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2020, 03:54:05 PM »
After this is all over, if I survive, I am going to Starbucks and Chick Filet on the same day.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2020, 04:39:16 PM »
Anyone reading Bill Mitchell's tweets? 
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2020, 05:07:37 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on March 22, 2020, 04:39:16 PM
Anyone reading Bill Mitchell's tweets?

Who is Bill Mitchell
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2020, 05:47:00 PM »
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2020, 07:51:00 PM »
I’d like to hear your thoughts on his tweets
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2020, 09:49:07 PM »
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #74 on: March 23, 2020, 04:12:17 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 22, 2020, 07:51:00 PM
I’d like to hear your thoughts on his tweets

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