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Re: Underwood
« Reply #480 on: March 29, 2021, 12:24:34 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 28, 2021, 11:42:34 PM
Custard strongly indicated he thought that way. And by the way you’re arguing, it seems you’re in his orbit.

The fuck I did.

This started by you laughing at Underwood as a potential candidate at Texas.

You then mentioned Nate Oats as a Texas candidate. The only thing on his resume that’s better than Underwood’s is his age.

Brad Underwood has demonstrably elevated every program he’s coached.  His team finished the season at #2 in AP poll, had 2 AA’s, won B1G by half a game, won BTT, beat 3 top 25 teams on the road to finish the regular season, and secured the third 1 seed in the tourney.

Yet in this “what have you done for me lately” world, you provided a list of coaches who are disgraced, did jack shit this year, are showing declining year over year results, or some combination of all three.

Yeah, Miller had a lot of success when he was cheating to get great players. And by golly that’s exactly what happened with Rick Pitino. They’re under the microscope. The weapons they used to built their success have been removed from their arsenal. Somehow Cal has avoided that but he finished like 8 games below .500 this year.

But somehow your internal UT decision maker dialogue thinks those guys are front runners and Underwood is somewhere in the top 16.

If I was a Texas fan there’s no way I’d want some retread that’s under investigation, has a show-cause, and hasn’t been competitive in a major conference in the last year or two.

Would take an Oats/Musselman/Underwood type 100% of the time.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #481 on: March 29, 2021, 12:26:23 AM »
And one last thing before I (try to) go to sleep. You guys will NEVER be as dumb as the Chicago Bears message board posters. Or probably even the Golf Channel for that matter. So keep your heads up. You guys are champs in my eyes.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #482 on: March 29, 2021, 12:27:56 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 29, 2021, 12:24:34 AM
The fuck I did.

This started by you laughing at Underwood as a potential candidate at Texas.

You then mentioned Nate Oats as a Texas candidate. The only thing on his resume that’s better than Underwood’s is his age.

Brad Underwood has demonstrably elevated every program he’s coached.  His team finished the season at #2 in AP poll, had 2 AA’s, won B1G by half a game, won BTT, beat 3 top 25 teams on the road to finish the regular season, and secured the third 1 seed in the tourney.

Yet in this “what have you done for me lately” world, you provided a list of coaches who are disgraced, did jack shit this year, are showing declining year over year results, or some combination of all three.

Yeah, Miller had a lot of success when he was cheating to get great players. And by golly that’s exactly what happened with Rick Pitino. They’re under the microscope. The weapons they used to built their success have been removed from their arsenal. Somehow Cal has avoided that but he finished like 8 games below .500 this year.

But somehow your internal UT decision maker dialogue thinks those guys are front runners and Underwood is somewhere in the top 16.

If I was a Texas fan there’s no way I’d want some retread that’s under investigation, has a show-cause, and hasn’t been competitive in a major conference in the last year or two.

Would take an Oats/Musselman/Underwood type 100% of the time.

Once again, you don’t read very well. Or apparently even understand what you write. I’ll tackle this one tomorrow. Don’t let me forget.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #483 on: March 29, 2021, 12:38:51 AM »
Ugh, can’t fall asleep. If I was a Texas fan and they hired Pitino, I’d be jizzing on myself. I’d feel dirty for sure, but also happy at the same time (ya feelin’ me?). Having said that, I would think he’d be 2nd tier on Texas’ list. Beard/Drew probably 1st tier. Underwood would be 3rd tier.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #484 on: March 29, 2021, 12:40:09 AM »
I’d be happy if Texas hired Underwood.

He’ll never live down the “choke” of the century here anyways...
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #485 on: March 29, 2021, 12:41:29 AM »
This is my best work since the Khalil Mack trade.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #486 on: March 29, 2021, 12:44:41 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 29, 2021, 12:24:34 AM
The fuck I did.

Fart, you can't argue this point. It's been established.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #487 on: March 29, 2021, 06:22:48 AM »
Quote from: fucking on March 29, 2021, 12:44:41 AM
Fart, you can't argue this point. It's been established.

Yes, what he wrote has been well established. Here’s what he wrote. There’s a lot to chew on, here:


JFC tempo says they should get Nate Oats and he just got ousted by an 11 seed that by ranking and all metrics was worse than the 8 seed we lost to. When I bring that up he completely avoids it and builds some straw man.

K, Self, Roy, Cal, Bennett plus dozens of other great coaches have had much worse “bad losses” in the tourney than losing to a tourney experienced AP #17 KenPom #10 team that just happens to be a terrible matchup.

What has Pitino done lately besides get run out of his job for cheating and end up at Iona? Cal just had one of the worst seasons in UK history. Roy got handled in the tourney by a mediocre Wisconsin team. Sean Miller hasn’t won a tourney game in 4 years, is under investigation, was banned from tourney this year, and finished 17-15.

Drew and Beard are the only things you said that make any sense whatsoever in a rational universe”

Back to me:


For one, Texas would be foolish to want Calipari over Underwood because Kentucky “had a bad year, one of the worst ever in UK history.”
Clear advantage Underwood...

Pitino what has he done lately? He got in trouble. Coaches never bounce back from that amirite? I mean; who couldn’t take Iona to the tourney and play a 2 seed tough? Gotta give Underwood the advantage over the HOFer at 55.

Sean Miller? He got his peepee spanked and hasn’t “won a tourney game in 4 years.” Nevermind the fact he didn’t have a chance to in 2 of them. Nevermind his 7 S16s (and still younger than Underwood). Since he’s clearly a hot mess, a premier program would surely move on from him, right? Oh wait, they didn’t? Why wouldn’t they call Underwood?

Roy, Bill, K, Cal, and Bennett have ALL had worse tourney losses than Underwood, amirite? I mean, who wants that? I mean Roy got bumped by Wisconsin (Nevermind that Roy isn’t leaving NC). Underwood just “had a terrible matchup.” Take away that terrible matchup and Underwood is clearly preferable to those other HOFers.



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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #488 on: March 29, 2021, 06:26:25 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 29, 2021, 12:24:34 AM
The fuck I did.

This started by you laughing at Underwood as a potential candidate at Texas.

You then mentioned Nate Oats as a Texas candidate. The only thing on his resume that’s better than Underwood’s is his age.

Brad Underwood has demonstrably elevated every program he’s coached.  His team finished the season at #2 in AP poll, had 2 AA’s, won B1G by half a game, won BTT, beat 3 top 25 teams on the road to finish the regular season, and secured the third 1 seed in the tourney.

Yet in this “what have you done for me lately” world, you provided a list of coaches who are disgraced, did jack shit this year, are showing declining year over year results, or some combination of all three.

Yeah, Miller had a lot of success when he was cheating to get great players. And by golly that’s exactly what happened with Rick Pitino. They’re under the microscope. The weapons they used to built their success have been removed from their arsenal. Somehow Cal has avoided that but he finished like 8 games below .500 this year.

But somehow your internal UT decision maker dialogue thinks those guys are front runners and Underwood is somewhere in the top 16.

If I was a Texas fan there’s no way I’d want some retread that’s under investigation, has a show-cause, and hasn’t been competitive in a major conference in the last year or two.

Would take an Oats/Musselman/Underwood type 100% of the time.

I never mentioned Oats “as a candidate” and I certainly didn’t say “they should hire him” as you said I did. I said Texas would hire him before hiring Underwood. Which is probably true.

Cheating coaches never get another chance do they? Except ALL THE TIME!
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #489 on: March 29, 2021, 06:27:42 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 28, 2021, 08:21:58 PM
Add Nate Oats to the list of coaches more likely to be hired by Texas than Underwood.

Here’s what I said...facts matter
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« Reply #490 on: March 29, 2021, 06:33:37 AM »
It’s not demeaning to Underwood to say that there are probably at least 10 coaches that Texas would rather have. Underwood is doing a good job. But he didn’t jump Calipari because Calipari “had a bad year.”

And as far as Pitino, I don’t put him in that top tier that Texas is likely to go to, but he’d be the top of tier 2 IMO. Pitino probably has Texas in a Final Four in 2-3 years if he went there.

No way Texas is handing over the keys to the race car to a near 60 year old with a short track-record. Period.
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« Reply #491 on: March 29, 2021, 06:43:02 AM »
Tier 1 for UT probably consists of Beard and Drew. Unless they’re looking to poach someone like Calipari. My guess is it will be Beard.


Have you heard his story?


If Beard decides he’d rather stay at TT, I’ll be shocked if they can’t entice Drew from Baylor.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #492 on: March 29, 2021, 06:56:53 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 28, 2021, 11:02:51 PM
I was listening to ALionEye and some other dude today chatting on some podcast on ALyonEye's website and they discussed how Illinois has never made an "unexpected run" in the tourney.

It really is pathetic and embarrassing.  I remember when #5 Illinois beat #4 Cincinnati in 2004, it was the first time Illinois had EVER beat a higher seed.

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« Reply #493 on: March 29, 2021, 07:30:28 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 28, 2021, 11:00:26 PM
Tempo versus Rob. Add Judge Judy, who probably hates both of them, and we have a great Mexican Standoff.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #494 on: March 29, 2021, 08:29:58 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 29, 2021, 12:19:26 AM
This thread is a prime example of why I exist as a poster. It’s to combat the dumb.

It is a prime example of something....
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