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Re: NCAA Tournament brackets
« Reply #510 on: March 27, 2021, 06:19:38 PM »
Two godawful ugly games today. Low scoring, bad shooting, turnovers. Even though it’s been a defensive battle there were barely any fouls called so nova now is fouling a bunch just to get to the bonus, which has been just thrilling to watch.
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Re: NCAA Tournament brackets
« Reply #511 on: March 27, 2021, 06:25:35 PM »
My 4 year old has Oregon State in the F4 🤣

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« Reply #512 on: March 27, 2021, 06:58:49 PM »
Yay another godawful basketball game. With it being so warm I’ve been trying to go out fishing all afternoon but every time I step out of the house it starts raining again.
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Re: NCAA Tournament brackets
« Reply #513 on: March 27, 2021, 07:40:28 PM »
of course its hard to miss wide open layup after layup while getting beat backdoor and off the same damn play with those picks over and over again.  Yet Underwhelm couldnt figure it out.
I didn’t watch the OSU-Loyola game, but I’m going to make a guess: Oregon State zoned them on defense? A zone would have taken away everything they were doing to us and made them make plays on the perimeter, which I’m not convinced they could do.

People who watched the game, how far off am I?

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Re: NCAA Tournament brackets
« Reply #514 on: March 27, 2021, 07:48:54 PM »
Oral Roberts looking good again. Damn.
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Re: NCAA Tournament brackets
« Reply #515 on: March 27, 2021, 08:15:23 PM »
It seems like everybody on Ark has 7 ' 5" wingspan.

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« Reply #516 on: March 27, 2021, 09:52:53 PM »
Yay another barn burner here. 30-20 going into halftime.
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« Reply #517 on: March 27, 2021, 10:10:00 PM »
Yay another barn burner here. 30-20 going into halftime.

I think Houston likes it like that. They win ugly.


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« Reply #518 on: March 27, 2021, 10:23:28 PM »
I didn’t watch the OSU-Loyola game, but I’m going to make a guess: Oregon State zoned them on defense? A zone would have taken away everything they were doing to us and made them make plays on the perimeter, which I’m not convinced they could do.

People who watched the game, how far off am I?

They switched on and off. Loyola had wide open looks from three and couldn’t convert. They’ve been streaky all year. OSU’s length and bounce bothered Krutwig more than we could. OSU gave up a ton of open threes and their gamble paid off.

I would have liked to have seen us try some zone here and there but not really sure it would have made a big difference with Kofi in the lineup. This lineup is simply too traditional. We don’t have lengthy versatile athletic wings to disrupt passing lanes and close out shooters in a zone look. If we didn’t need Kofi so bad for offense I think there would have been more defensive options we could have used. 

The key to beating the zone is being patient and getting the ball to the free throw line to a good passer. Problem with that is Krutwig is really good from there and that’s exactly how they run their offense.

A zone wouldn’t have really helped Kofi at all, who was already kind of playing his own matchup zone on Krut after the first few minutes. It might have helped with some of the cuts they made that Krut fed but would have also left them open at the arc.

My primary concern was lack of adjustment on offense. It was clear by the 10 min mark of second half Kofi was gassed and he’s out 23 feet from the basket setting half assed screens while Ayo was getting iced. Eventually they went to a more iso look and got some good looks but they didn’t fall.

Underwood was thoroughly outcoached and Loyola was a really bad matchup for us. Trent missed several shots he almost always makes. Several other guys missed point blank shots.

I have to remind myself that three of our best five players are underclassmen and one of them has only been playing basketball for five years. First tourney appearance for all the players. Living in a bubble environment for over a week before the tourney even got started. Just got done playing 2.5 months of B1G opponents who don’t have Loyola’s style of play, maturity and discipline. Not making excuses but it’s not hard to see how such a team would be ripe for upset.
 
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Re: NCAA Tournament brackets
« Reply #519 on: March 27, 2021, 10:45:00 PM »
Syracuse looking an the ACC also-ran they are
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Re: NCAA Tournament brackets
« Reply #520 on: March 28, 2021, 02:07:28 AM »
I didn’t watch the OSU-Loyola game, but I’m going to make a guess: Oregon State zoned them on defense? A zone would have taken away everything they were doing to us and made them make plays on the perimeter, which I’m not convinced they could do.

People who watched the game, how far off am I?

You are correct.
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Re: NCAA Tournament brackets
« Reply #521 on: March 28, 2021, 06:13:46 AM »
As important as Kofi was, I'm surprised we didnt use a little zone during the year to protect him from foul trouble and let him take a breather just staying down low.
Even if it's just going to a zone for a couple of possessions to switch the defense up every now and then.
But then, maybe we tried it in practice and deep sixed the idea. Having some perimeter length can come in handy when playing a zone. 
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Re: NCAA Tournament brackets
« Reply #522 on: March 28, 2021, 10:10:08 AM »
We really had limited length and I would not call us anything that much above average athleticly either.

We could have really used a couple  6' 7" + guys who could make plays, get their own, and shoot a little bit.

We were small playing 4 guards and Kofi really and not that fast with the ball except for Ayo and Curbelo.


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Re: NCAA Tournament brackets
« Reply #523 on: March 28, 2021, 10:43:38 AM »
They switched on and off. Loyola had wide open looks from three and couldn’t convert. They’ve been streaky all year. OSU’s length and bounce bothered Krutwig more than we could. OSU gave up a ton of open threes and their gamble paid off.

I would have liked to have seen us try some zone here and there but not really sure it would have made a big difference with Kofi in the lineup. This lineup is simply too traditional. We don’t have lengthy versatile athletic wings to disrupt passing lanes and close out shooters in a zone look. If we didn’t need Kofi so bad for offense I think there would have been more defensive options we could have used. 

The key to beating the zone is being patient and getting the ball to the free throw line to a good passer. Problem with that is Krutwig is really good from there and that’s exactly how they run their offense.

A zone wouldn’t have really helped Kofi at all, who was already kind of playing his own matchup zone on Krut after the first few minutes. It might have helped with some of the cuts they made that Krut fed but would have also left them open at the arc.

My primary concern was lack of adjustment on offense. It was clear by the 10 min mark of second half Kofi was gassed and he’s out 23 feet from the basket setting half assed screens while Ayo was getting iced. Eventually they went to a more iso look and got some good looks but they didn’t fall.

Underwood was thoroughly outcoached and Loyola was a really bad matchup for us. Trent missed several shots he almost always makes. Several other guys missed point blank shots.

I have to remind myself that three of our best five players are underclassmen and one of them has only been playing basketball for five years. First tourney appearance for all the players. Living in a bubble environment for over a week before the tourney even got started. Just got done playing 2.5 months of B1G opponents who don’t have Loyola’s style of play, maturity and discipline. Not making excuses but it’s not hard to see how such a team would be ripe for upset.
A zone would have taken away Loyola’s layups. They maybe could have still scored, but not the same way. At least make them not shoot layups.

And Kofi didn’t need to be in there when we went zone. He was obviously gassed. Rest him, put in Giorgi and Hawkins.

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Re: NCAA Tournament brackets
« Reply #524 on: March 28, 2021, 10:49:30 AM »
No question any zone would have helped.
They are not great 3 point team.

We not only played man all day, we played really really bad man. We certainly had been playing better defense in our nice run in last month.
Our guys froze up. Got really slow.