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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5820 on: December 23, 2023, 01:19:31 PM »
So are we now admitting that millions died from Covid? This is progress.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5821 on: December 23, 2023, 07:19:28 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 23, 2023, 01:19:31 PM
So are we now admitting that millions died from Covid? This is progress.

It is a hoax that killed millions and is curable with light, bleach, quinine, or horse wormer.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5822 on: December 26, 2023, 11:45:00 AM »
Wish me luck friends my trip to Springfield is now a Superspreader!  That’s what we get for letting someone come from Joe Biden’s hellhole of Washington DC!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5823 on: December 26, 2023, 12:35:51 PM »
My sister’s close friend from high school died on Xmas Eve.

Complications from COVID with fentanyl addiction as a co morbidity.

Or as Mn would say “she died with COVID” and Tempo would say “she died with a fentanyl addiction”

Who’s to blame - the commies or the illegals?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5824 on: December 26, 2023, 01:24:21 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on December 26, 2023, 12:35:51 PM
My sister’s close friend from high school died on Xmas Eve.

Complications from COVID with fentanyl addiction as a co morbidity.

Or as Mn would say “she died with COVID” and Tempo would say “she died with a fentanyl addiction”

Who’s to blame - the commies or the illegals?

I would say it’s probably the Covid that sealed the deal. My condolences to your sister and her friends’ family.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5825 on: December 26, 2023, 04:05:58 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 23, 2023, 01:19:31 PM
So are we now admitting that millions died from Covid? This is progress.

That’s the funny part. It seems many left leaning people often cite really high death numbers and clutch their pearls about anything Covid related, but don’t you dare try to figure out where it came from!  Doing any research or trying to find answers makes someone a wing nut conspiracy theorist!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5826 on: December 26, 2023, 05:00:51 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 26, 2023, 04:05:58 PM
That’s the funny part. It seems many left leaning people often cite really high death numbers and clutch their pearls about anything Covid related, but don’t you dare try to figure out where it came from!  Doing any research or trying to find answers makes someone a wing nut conspiracy theorist!

Of course leftists want to know the origin. Unlike most right-wingers, we just believe there are multiple possibilities.  In fact, there a multiple lab-leak hypotheses, just as there are multiple ways a natural spillover could have occurred. 

We also recognize the process of scientific discovery can be a complicated and time-consuming process.  In this case, we will need the Chinese government to cooperate to find the answer.  I don't think that will happen anytime soon due to the current political climate at the international level.   

« Last Edit: December 26, 2023, 05:07:27 PM by alum74 »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5827 on: December 26, 2023, 11:45:10 PM »
Millions dead.

Virus may have come from a US funded research lab in China.

Patience!

And, in the meantime, definitely mock anyone who gives the slightest fuck about what’s going on in the background.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5828 on: December 27, 2023, 01:07:46 AM »
Quote from: Custard on December 26, 2023, 11:45:10 PM
Millions dead.

Virus may have come from a US funded research lab in China.

Patience!

And, in the meantime, definitely mock anyone who gives the slightest fuck about what’s going on in the background.

3 to 5 years or 50 more Fields" starts with the Bear patience?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5829 on: December 27, 2023, 06:34:41 AM »
Peter Daszak was touting the Global Virome Project before the pandemic, balancing the perceived need for research on viruses with the dangers of a lab leak occuring as a result of the research.

Meanwhile, Daszak's pre-pandemic DEFUSE Project seeking funding thru DARPA was a road map to a lab leak occurence, the danger that Daszak was warning about in the Global Virome Project.
From Newsweek, 2 years ago ....
"The proposal, for a project called DEFUSE, details how scientists from EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan Institute of Virology wanted to study the threat of bat-borne coronaviruses by sequencing samples from cave bats, reverse-engineering those samples to produce viruses, and then inserting these into mice to see what would happen in order to prepare for possible human outbreaks."
https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-us-scientists-make-coronaviruses-ecohealth-wiv-drastic-documents-1636532


Nothing leads to a zoonotic theory other than 'well geez, I suppose it might be possible.'
Throw that up on the wall and see if it sticks.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5830 on: December 27, 2023, 11:28:52 AM »
Quote from: Custard on December 26, 2023, 11:45:10 PM
Millions dead.

Virus may have come from a US funded research lab in China.

Patience

And, in the meantime, definitely mock anyone who gives the slightest fuck about what’s going on in the background.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2305081
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5831 on: December 27, 2023, 12:41:32 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 27, 2023, 11:28:52 AM
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2305081

If I killed your wife/mother/father/sibling/etc…, I could tell you why it’s important and why it’s not as well. So fucking stupid. It’s sure as hell not gonna stop the cops from finding out…
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5832 on: December 27, 2023, 03:09:56 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 27, 2023, 12:41:32 PM
If I killed your wife/mother/father/sibling/etc…, I could tell you why it’s important and why it’s not as well. So fucking stupid. It’s sure as hell not gonna stop the cops from finding out…

Strawman Alert.

As I said before, we should let the scientists do their work to find the answers.  We should also work to secure the cooperation of the Chinese government. 

However, that shouldn't stop governments worldwide from taking action now to minimize the potential for another pandemic.  That would include stricter regulations for lab safety/research as well as for wet markets and the wildlife trade.   

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5833 on: December 27, 2023, 04:28:44 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 27, 2023, 03:09:56 PM
Strawman Alert.

As I said before, we should let the scientists do their work to find the answers.  We should also work to secure the cooperation of the Chinese government. 

However, that shouldn't stop governments worldwide from taking action now to minimize the potential for another pandemic.  That would include stricter regulations for lab safety/research as well as for wet markets and the wildlife trade.

The link you supplied is complete nonsense. Of course it’s important. Just because some dumbass says it might not be is utter fucking nonsense and an excuse. Plain and simple.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5834 on: December 27, 2023, 06:41:02 PM »
All of the biological.evidence points to zoonosis as the origin of the virus that causes covid.

The political evidence suggests a possible cover up; which implies some sort of lab leak. This could even have a lab leak of a virus with a zoonotic origin.

We will never know unless China decides to cooperate fully. That will not happen in an atmospheric of mutual fear, hatred, and distrust.
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