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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #555 on: July 30, 2020, 05:56:22 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 30, 2020, 05:23:25 PM
You fuckin with me? Not having a mask on and sitting shoulder to shoulder with someone he doesn’t live with isn’t contradicting his own recommendations?

Certainly seems that way. Unless he just gave the guy a test and got the results back immediately.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #556 on: July 30, 2020, 06:03:32 PM »
Shame he didn’t make the transition, he has to be getting tired of being his wife’s bitch
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #557 on: July 30, 2020, 06:25:08 PM »
Carry an opened bottle of water with you, wear your mask below your chin and you're good to go.
Tell Karen you're dehydrated if she says anything.

Social distancing, when not wearing a mask, is not required when with close friends.
If I woulda known that, my summer would have been a lot different.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2020, 06:45:27 PM by Mn »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #558 on: July 30, 2020, 07:26:11 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 30, 2020, 05:23:25 PM
You fuckin with me? Not having a mask on and sitting shoulder to shoulder with someone he doesn’t live with isn’t contradicting his own recommendations?

Fauci said:

"The other person is a very close friend of mine. John, I think this is sort of mischievous with this thing going around. I had my mask around my chin, I had taken it down. I was totally dehydrated and I was drinking water trying to rehydrate myself. And by the way, I was negative Covid literally the day before.

So I guess if people want to make a thing of that, I wear a mask all the time when I’m outside. To pull it down, to take some sips of water, and put it back up again, I guess if people want to make something about that, they can. But to me, I think that’s just mischievous."

The Trumplicans want to follow the advice of a woman whose saner ideas include reptilian aliens running the shadow government and the planned covid vaccine will make you an atheist. After all, that's her culture. They spot Fauci between sips of water and it's gotcha!  They find out Biden opposed busing to achieve integrated schools 45 years ago, and it's omg, he is such a racist! Masks that effectively block the main means of transmission don't work; but a mix of an immunosuppressant anti-parasitic, an anti-bacterial, and zinc is a cure?     
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #559 on: July 30, 2020, 07:40:02 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 30, 2020, 07:26:11 PM

The Trumplicans want to follow the advice of a woman whose saner ideas include reptilian aliens running the shadow government and the planned covid vaccine will make you an atheist. After all, that's her culture. They spot Fauci between sips of water and it's gotcha!  They find out Biden opposed busing to achieve integrated schools 45 years ago, and it's omg, he is such a racist! Masks that effectively block the main means of transmission don't work; but a mix of an immunosuppressant anti-parasitic, an anti-bacterial, and zinc is a cure?   

It's maddening. When we speak about climate change, I can at least concede that cars are pretty fun, that even if I think people who can't walk or bike are lazy, cars are still easy. I understand that people made life choices that mean large distances to work or stores or family that mean a bike ain't gonna work based on a time where we didn't understand climate change. That we'd have to invest a ton of money to put decent rail into place, to install massive amounts of solar. So I can see how people would bend over backwards to convince themselves that it's not important to do that hard work.

But masks are unbelievably cheap and simple. It's like actively resisting the concept of brushing teeth or wiping your ass.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #560 on: July 30, 2020, 07:48:37 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 30, 2020, 05:56:22 PM
Quote from: Custard on July 30, 2020, 05:23:25 PM
You fuckin with me? Not having a mask on and sitting shoulder to shoulder with someone he doesn’t live with isn’t contradicting his own recommendations?

Certainly seems that way. Unless he just gave the guy a test and got the results back immediately.

The guy was wearing a mask. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #561 on: July 30, 2020, 08:57:18 PM »
Quote from: Mn on July 30, 2020, 06:25:08 PM
Carry an opened bottle of water with you, wear your mask below your chin and you're good to go.
Tell Karen you're dehydrated if she says anything.

Social distancing, when not wearing a mask, is not required when with close friends.
If I woulda known that, my summer would have been a lot different.

You'd have been a real Herman Cain
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #562 on: July 30, 2020, 09:03:00 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 30, 2020, 07:26:11 PM
Quote from: Custard on July 30, 2020, 05:23:25 PM
You fuckin with me? Not having a mask on and sitting shoulder to shoulder with someone he doesn’t live with isn’t contradicting his own recommendations?

Fauci said:

"The other person is a very close friend of mine. John, I think this is sort of mischievous with this thing going around. I had my mask around my chin, I had taken it down. I was totally dehydrated and I was drinking water trying to rehydrate myself. And by the way, I was negative Covid literally the day before.

So I guess if people want to make a thing of that, I wear a mask all the time when I’m outside. To pull it down, to take some sips of water, and put it back up again, I guess if people want to make something about that, they can. But to me, I think that’s just mischievous."

The Trumplicans want to follow the advice of a woman whose saner ideas include reptilian aliens running the shadow government and the planned covid vaccine will make you an atheist. After all, that's her culture. They spot Fauci between sips of water and it's gotcha!  They find out Biden opposed busing to achieve integrated schools 45 years ago, and it's omg, he is such a racist! Masks that effectively block the main means of transmission don't work; but a mix of an immunosuppressant anti-parasitic, an anti-bacterial, and zinc is a cure?   

Why are you conflating Fauci being in clear violation of his own recommendations with this other whack job shit? Can’t the Fauci thing stand on its own without bringing up this absurd counterpoint that has nothing to do with Fauci’s mask?

I’m not condemning the guy, I could give a fuck less what he does, but don’t post something from Snopes that’s literally lying to my face and expect me not to respond with incredulity
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #563 on: July 30, 2020, 09:07:45 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 30, 2020, 07:48:37 PM
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 30, 2020, 05:56:22 PM
Quote from: Custard on July 30, 2020, 05:23:25 PM
You fuckin with me? Not having a mask on and sitting shoulder to shoulder with someone he doesn’t live with isn’t contradicting his own recommendations?

Certainly seems that way. Unless he just gave the guy a test and got the results back immediately.

The guy was wearing a mask.

The guy in the mask protects Fauci from him,  but not vice verse.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #564 on: July 31, 2020, 08:45:22 AM »
Drugs can be quite useful for disease states other than what they were developed for. Sildenafil was developed to treat pulmonary hypertension which can affect the lungs and the heart. It never got off the ground and development was close to being abandoned, but Pfizer did make a couple of bucks when it marketed sildenafil as Viagra after some anecdotal effects arose.

It is not always known how drugs work either .
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3990949/
 In 1963 an even more potent benzodiazepine, diazepam 1 (Valium), was released to the public, possessing “a greater dissociation between its sedative and anxiolytic properties.”2 Not only prescribed for anxiety, diazepam had therapeutic benefits for epilepsy, muscle spasms, and alcohol withdrawal.3 Diazepam quickly became one of the top selling drugs of all time, despite 15 years without significant knowledge of its mechanism of action.

Re azithromycin,
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7290142/
It has been shown that AZM has significant antiviral properties. In contrast with CQ or HCQ, its antiviral activity has been shown in vitro and/or in vivo on a large panel of viruses: Ebola, Zika, respiratory syncytial virus, influenzae H1N1 virus, enterovirus, and rhinovirus [4–13].

Re zinc,
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7247509/
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) represents the largest current health challenge for the society. At the moment, the therapeutic strategies to deal with this disease are only supportive. It is well known that zinc (Zn) possesses a variety of direct and indirect antiviral properties, which are realized through different mechanisms. Administration of Zn supplement has a potential to enhance antiviral immunity, both innate and humoral, and to restore depleted immune cell function or to improve normal immune cell function, in particular in immunocompromised or elderly patients. Zn may also act in a synergistic manner when co-administered with the standard antiviral therapy, as was demonstrated in patients with hepatitis C, HIV, and SARS-CoV-1.

I'll reserve judgement for now, but Orange man bad. Big Pharma good.



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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #565 on: July 31, 2020, 09:45:06 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #566 on: July 31, 2020, 09:58:36 AM »


Standard interdepartmental email.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #567 on: July 31, 2020, 10:04:50 AM »
I mean how smart can Fauci really be?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #568 on: July 31, 2020, 10:33:28 AM »
The Q gang will lose it when their investigations find actual Christmas cards sent from Trump to the Clintons.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #569 on: July 31, 2020, 01:42:08 PM »
Quote from: Mn on July 31, 2020, 08:45:22 AM
Drugs can be quite useful for disease states other than what they were developed for.
I'll reserve judgement for now, but Orange man bad. Big Pharma good.

They can. In this case, hydroxycholorquine isn't useful for treating COVID. There is no conspiracy against the stuff. If it worked, then people who are really good at this shit would have the evidence by now.

The danger here - and I see it plastered all over my the facebook feeds of the crazies - is that they seem to be using "Hydroxycholoroquine is the answer, so we can just re-open everything and treat the people who get it with hydroxy, done". That is patently untrue - there aren't any studies that show "you take this stuff and the covid just goes away", even the bogus studies aren't stupid enough to say that, they say "reduces fatality rate".

If the most optimistic theory on hydroxychloroquine were true, and we just opened everything up, the hospitals would still be full of people who needed to go in for a week to ten days of treatment.
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