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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5040 on: January 26, 2023, 04:48:27 PM »
I am seeing people giving PV cred. Mike Judge may have come close to nailing it.

I suppose the concept that big Pharma would create diseases so they can sell the cure has a certain amount of appeal. Traditionally, this sort of thing was generally coming from the fringe left and debunked by the right.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5041 on: January 26, 2023, 07:06:11 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on January 26, 2023, 03:13:51 PM
I remember when all you libtards and Jon Stewart loved project veritas

When was that?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5042 on: January 27, 2023, 08:35:48 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on January 26, 2023, 11:12:12 AM
hmmm wonder why the msm is burying this story 🤐


Are you going to do the follow-up ?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5043 on: January 27, 2023, 08:51:04 AM »
"A Project Veritas video with what alleges is a Pfizer employee, includes a conversation about the possibility of mutating COVID, in order to preemptively create vaccines for strains that may occur naturally."

https://www.newsweek.com/project-veritas-covid-mutations-pfizer-fact-check-1776845
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5044 on: January 27, 2023, 09:27:13 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 27, 2023, 08:51:04 AM
"A Project Veritas video with what alleges is a Pfizer employee, includes a conversation about the possibility of mutating COVID, in order to preemptively create vaccines for strains that may occur naturally."

https://www.newsweek.com/project-veritas-covid-mutations-pfizer-fact-check-1776845
"but we do these selected structure mutations to try to see if we can make them more potent."

It's comforting to know that we can dismiss, as unverified, any talk of selected structure mutations to increase potency.

It was also nice to see the plug for Nature, who wouldn't publish the Proximal Origins paper, and "variants that may occur in nature."

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5045 on: January 27, 2023, 01:25:14 PM »
This makes sense. Find ways to anticipate variants before they occur in nature:


"We're exploring, like, you know how the virus keeps mutating? Well, one of the things we're exploring is like, why don't we just mutate it ourselves, so we could focus on, create, preemptively develop new vaccines, right?"

There is no context for this:


"We're not supposed to do gain-of-function with the viruses. They'd rather we not but we do these selected structure mutations to try to see if we can make them more potent"

Make what more potent? The virus or the vaccines?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5046 on: January 27, 2023, 02:17:50 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 27, 2023, 01:25:14 PM
This makes sense. Find ways to anticipate variants before they occur in nature:


"We're exploring, like, you know how the virus keeps mutating? Well, one of the things we're exploring is like, why don't we just mutate it ourselves, so we could focus on, create, preemptively develop new vaccines, right?"

There is no context for this:


"We're not supposed to do gain-of-function with the viruses. They'd rather we not but we do these selected structure mutations to try to see if we can make them more potent"

Make what more potent? The virus or the vaccines?

Tho there should probably be some discussion of making a vaccine more potent with respect to the possibility of unintended consequences I'm not sure 'they don't want us to do this' would be a hurdle.
Making a virus more potent ? Uh, yes.

Following up with "There better not be more outbreaks because, Jesus Christ." should answer your question.

And Newsweek giving the "most innocuous" description of gain of function without giving the most dangerous should be a red flag.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5047 on: January 27, 2023, 02:23:43 PM »
Nothing about anything in a highly edited video from project Veritas gives us any answers. I think Newsweek requested a copy of the entire interviews. Just in case hell does freeze over, we might get answers. Until then, it's another circus sideshow.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5048 on: January 27, 2023, 02:40:56 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5049 on: January 27, 2023, 02:59:27 PM »
Project veritas is the same group where the dude dressed up like a 70s pimp to go “undercover,” right?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5050 on: January 28, 2023, 10:39:16 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5051 on: January 28, 2023, 10:52:35 AM »
Pfizer responds with 'we don't do that except when we do do that, but we will not address here what we've discussed as mentioned by the Director of Research and Development- Strategic Operations and mRNA Scientific Planning but haven't done yet.'

"Pfizer has not conducted gain of function or directed evolution research."
"In a limited number of cases when a full virus does not contain any known gain of function mutations, such virus may be engineered to enable the assessment of antiviral activity in cells."
https://www.pfizer.com/news/announcements/pfizer-responds-research-claims
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5052 on: January 28, 2023, 11:09:15 AM »
Does anyone honestly believe Big Pharma is deliberately infecting the public with bioengineered coronavirus variants, or plans to do so on the future, so they can keep selling us updated vaccines?

Does anyone believe they are doing studies to anticipate future natural variants before they occur, so they can preemptively develop vaccines  and other treatments?

Does anyone trust either Pfizer or Project Veritas?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5053 on: January 28, 2023, 11:17:36 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 28, 2023, 11:09:15 AM
Does anyone honestly believe Big Pharma is deliberately infecting the public with bioengineered coronavirus variants, or plans to do so on the future, so they can keep selling us updated vaccines?

Does anyone believe they are doing studies to anticipate future natural variants before they occur, so they can preemptively develop vaccines  and other treatments?

Does anyone trust either Pfizer or Project Veritas?
Did anyone think millions of deaths would be attributed to a virus with no evidence of existence before the fall of 2019 ?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5054 on: January 28, 2023, 11:44:08 AM »
Quote from: Caesar on January 28, 2023, 10:39:16 AM
I echo this.

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Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!

You maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!

Now we are talking about a great movie.
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