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wtf up with ICE

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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2026, 05:35:46 PM »
Shocking that there is a question of who rammed who.

I wonder if anything like that ever happened before?

"Federal immigration and border enforcement officials accused Chicago-area resident Marimar Martinez of ramming a federal vehicle during an October 4, 2025, operation in Brighton Park."

"Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officials claimed Martinez and another driver boxed in and rammed federal vehicles, prompting a Border Patrol agent to fire five shots, hitting Martinez multiple times"

,"...body camera footage proved the federal agent intentionally collided with her car."

"a federal judge dismissed [all] the ... charges against Martinez with prejudice, dropping the case entirely."
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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2026, 08:04:22 PM »
BREAKING🚨 A young woman was DRAGGED across the pavement outside a Newark ICE jail, her shirt pulled off, screaming for help. The nurse who tried to help was THROWN by ICE agents - leaving her with a concussion, three meniscus tears, and a fractured kneecap.

Norma Bowe is a registered nurse, a grandmother, and a public health professor at Kean University who has parked a mobile clinic outside Delaney Hall in Newark for the past year, giving out blood pressure checks, first aid, food, water, baby formula and blankets to families visiting people locked inside. She started after a student's husband was detained there, about a week before that student's graduation.

On Memorial Day, May 25, she was asked to help someone hurt near a secondary gate. Three days earlier, roughly 300 detainees inside had launched a hunger strike over conditions. Agents were firing rubber bullets and pepper spray into the crowd outside.

Around 1 p.m., wearing a bright red stethoscope, Bowe saw agents dragging a young woman along the ground. "She was being dragged, arms over her head, and her whole shirt came off," Bowe said. "She was yelling: 'Help me. Help me.'"

Bowe moved toward her. One masked agent grabbed the back of her shirt, a second came from her right, and she "flew through the air and crashed to the ground, bouncing once," according to the claim, head on the concrete sidewalk, lower body on the asphalt.

An MRI found the fractured kneecap and three medial meniscus tears. She was also diagnosed with post-concussive symptoms and whiplash. Two months on, she still has headaches, trouble sleeping, and pain around her left eye.

Members of the public helped her. The agents and the other federal officers standing there did not.

"What went through my head was Alex Pretti, the nurse who was killed in Minneapolis, trying to help somebody up from the ground," Bowe said.

Two days later she was back at the clinic, facial abrasions still visible.

The ACLU of New Jersey filed a $500,000 claim on July 29 alleging assault, battery and intentional infliction of emotional distress. It is one of 54 filed across 17 states and Washington, D.C. Her lawyers say photographs exist, but the agents' masks make identifying them difficult.

DHS did not answer the allegations, pointing instead to its statement from that day calling the crowd "rioters" and saying officers used "the minimum amount of force necessary."
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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2026, 09:55:00 PM »
Sounds like Clickbait bullshit to me
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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2026, 05:51:01 AM »
Sounds like Clickbait bullshit to me

Why? Just because?
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2026, 07:03:11 AM »
Sounds like Clickbait bullshit to me
Ragebait that reaches its target audience.

There is video.
Private citizens confronting federal law enforcement doesn't work so well sometimes.
Still hiding behind innuendo and practicing the art of omission.

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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2026, 09:26:47 AM »
The way Pretti “confronted” federal law enforcement?
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2026, 12:09:39 PM »
The way Pretti “confronted” federal law enforcement?
If you say so, except for just about everything.
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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2026, 12:39:39 PM »
Ragebait that reaches its target audience.

There is video.
Private citizens confronting federal law enforcement doesn't work so well sometimes.

Federal Law Enforcement being comprised of drug addled domestic abusers with no training doesn't work so well always.

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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2026, 01:20:34 PM »

There is video.
Private citizens confronting federal law enforcement doesn't work so well sometimes.

Somehow, seeing multiple burly men dragging a fragile woman across the ground doesn't sit well with most observers. They tend to attempt to intervene in some way.

Most of us are not okay with grabbing a grandma nurse by her hair and slamming her head against a sidewalk.

I realize some are okay with that.
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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2026, 01:29:20 PM »
If you say so, except for just about everything.

Where’s the video? I did a google search but did not find it.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2026, 01:58:14 PM »
“Taking a trip? Where to?”  -“Wherever I end up, I guess. -“Man, I wish I was you." -Well, hang in there.”

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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2026, 06:53:06 AM »
Somehow, seeing multiple burly men dragging a fragile woman across the ground doesn't sit well with most observers. They tend to attempt to intervene in some way.

Most of us are not okay with grabbing a grandma nurse by her hair and slamming her head against a sidewalk.

I realize some are okay with that.

And when the observers get involved in physical confrontations with federal law enforcement they are no longer "observers."
Is throwing rocks or pieces of concrete ok ?
How about biting off the tip of a man's finger ?
How about fireworks and gas canisters ?

"grabbing a grandma nurse by her hair and slamming her head against a sidewalk."

Who did this ?

« Last Edit: August 08, 2026, 07:05:21 AM by No one in Mn »
Still hiding behind innuendo and practicing the art of omission.

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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2026, 07:04:48 AM »
Can't say that the reality has supported ICE's version of events in these matters as often as Mn thinks.
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Re: wtf up with ICE
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2026, 07:30:07 AM »
Can't say that the reality has supported ICE's version of events in these matters as often as Mn thinks.
If you're referring to no charges or charges being dropped, good luck getting a conviction in Broadview, Minneapolis or Newark.

If you see Reed Showalter in the Oak Park Jewel be sure to ask how Sunny Naqvi is doing. And his buddy Kevin Morrison.
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« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2026, 08:02:12 AM »
Can't say that the reality has supported ICE's version of events in these matters as often as Mn thinks.
ICE got this guy and his 8 molotov cocktails off the street, for now. Is the ICE version presented by WLS correct ? 🤷

MOKENA, Ill. (WLS) -- A suburban man is facing charges after being found with eight Molotov cocktails and a map of the area that included a local mosque.

Hamed Alsaidi of Oak Lawn was arrested in Mokena on Saturday, for walking in the street, near 191st Street and LaGrange Road, police said.

Illinois law enforcement is barred from coordinating with federal authorities on immigration cases by law.
https://abc7chicago.com/post/oak-lawn-man-hamed-alsaidi-arrested-191st-st-lagrange-road-mokena-molotov-cocktails-map-including-mosque-police/19630955/

I like how the media tosses in the "immigration cases" part when the story is about a guy with molotov cocktails. Traveling from Oak Lawn to Orland Park with molotov cocktails isn't 'immigrating' in my book. 😄
Still hiding behind innuendo and practicing the art of omission.