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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #285 on: February 24, 2026, 04:46:19 PM »
He sounds pretty zealous to me. Your “logic” is pretty flimsy.

Pastor saying it is ok to rape someone based on how they are dressed is a zealous person? Ok.....
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #286 on: February 24, 2026, 06:14:03 PM »
Take it to the overzealous and incurious thread!
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #287 on: February 24, 2026, 07:01:02 PM »
Pastor saying it is ok to rape someone based on how they are dressed is a zealous person? Ok.....

You don’t consider a “pastor” using an extreme example like this zealotry? I would.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #288 on: February 24, 2026, 07:01:56 PM »
Pastor saying it is ok to rape someone based on how they are dressed is a zealous person? Ok.....

It’s only zealotry when Muslims do it?
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #289 on: February 24, 2026, 07:32:21 PM »
These kinds of stories just might hurt tourism and the trade deficit.

Trump's solution to the trade deficit is to impose a world wide 15% section 122 "import tax" [tariff]


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BREAKING: WTF? Trump's ICE goons shackled and threw a British grandma on a tourist visa in their gulag for SIX WEEKS!

Karen Newton, a 65-year-old grandmother from Hertfordshire, England with a clean record and a valid B2 tourist visa, thought she was heading for a dream two-month road trip through four Western states and Canada with her husband Bill.

What she got instead was a nightmare: six weeks in ICE detention after being shackled, sleeping on the floor, and locked in a windowless cell with no end date in sight.

The ordeal began September 26, 2025, when the couple was turned back at the Canadian border due to Bill’s expired visa. U.S. officials at the Montana crossing decided Karen was “guilty by association” for helping him pack – a ridiculous stretch – which nonetheless led to both being handcuffed, waist-chained, and ankle-shackled.

Karen spent three days on mats under foil blankets at Sweetgrass border station, then endured a 12-hour overnight van ride to the Northwest ICE Processing Center in Tacoma, Washington.

“It’s called a detention facility, but it’s really a prison,” she said. Lights always on, no windows, guards everywhere, everything bolted down. She slept on the floor for a month because she was assigned a top bunk she couldn’t climb up to.

She lost all sense of time, suffered pain and constipation from fear of using watched toilets, and watched other detainees – many long-term U.S. residents with families – cry over separations from children.

Guards repeatedly told Karen ICE agents get bonuses per detention. She believes the quotas and incentives drove the cruelty: “There is all the incentive in the world to find a reason – any reason – not to let someone go.”

She eventually signed for “self-removal” under Project Homecoming to get out faster, waiving rights to a judge and accepting a potential 10-year U.S. ban.

Karen’s story isn’t isolated. Since Trump’s inauguration, international travelers with valid documents have been swept up in ICE’s aggressive enforcement. The message is chilling: if it can happen to a white, middle-aged British grandmother on a holiday, it can happen to anyone. No criminal record, no illegal entry, no threat – just a system incentivized to detain first and ask questions never.

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #290 on: February 24, 2026, 07:52:50 PM »
Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/21/karen-newton-valid-visa-detained-ice
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #291 on: February 24, 2026, 08:06:23 PM »
These kinds of stories just might hurt tourism and the trade deficit.

Trump's solution to the trade deficit is to impose a world wide 15% section 122 "import tax" [tariff]



Nothing about Canada not letting the British woman enter Canada ?

« Last Edit: February 24, 2026, 08:11:04 PM by Somewhere in Mn »

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #292 on: February 24, 2026, 08:06:59 PM »
You don’t consider a “pastor” using an extreme example like this zealotry? I would.

No. Would call it a bastardization
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #293 on: February 24, 2026, 08:11:13 PM »
Nothing about Canada not letting the British woman enter Canada ?

And, yes, I would guess the Guardian wrote this story with the intent to damage tourism.

LOL - Canada is a member of the British Commonwealth.

But I like the way you're thinking, maybe we can keep you from showing up to Illinois home games based on non-Illinois citizenship. You're a black cat.

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #294 on: February 24, 2026, 08:29:56 PM »
I thought Terry Hawthorne was The Black Cat
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #295 on: February 24, 2026, 08:33:17 PM »
Nothing about Canada not letting the British woman enter Canada ?

That didn't happen..

"When they crossed the border, Canadian officials told them they didn’t have the correct paperwork to bring the car with them. They were turned back to Montana on the American side"
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #296 on: February 24, 2026, 08:41:48 PM »
the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by Elon Musk, did not save the $2 trillion in waste promised as of early 2026.

Based on reports, the initiative fell significantly short of that goal, with claimed savings often being a small fraction of the promise, and in some cases, the initiatives actually resulted in net costs.

--Savings vs. Promises: While Elon Musk initially promised $2 trillion in cuts, this figure was later reduced to $1 trillion and subsequently to $150 billion. By April 2025, reports indicated actual savings were far lower than even the revised goals, with one analysis showing only about $2 billion in real, verified cuts out of over $50 billion claimed at the time.

--Inflated Claims and Errors: Analyses by the New York Times and others found that many of DOGE’s "savings" claims were inflated, inaccurate, or double-counted, with one report stating that in August 2025, DOGE overstated the savings of its largest cuts by 97%.

--Actual Costs: Studies suggested that DOGE's actions, including mass firings and disruptions, actually cost taxpayers money—estimated at $135 billion due to paid leave for federal workers, lost productivity, and costs of rehiring, without including potential revenue losses from IRS cuts.

--Workforce Reductions: DOGE was successful in cutting the federal workforce, reducing it by over 280,000 employees, which created significant disruptions in government services.

Experts noted that achieving $2 trillion in cuts was considered nearly impossible without touching major, protected programs like Social Security and Medicare.
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #297 on: February 24, 2026, 10:09:58 PM »
the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by Elon Musk, did not save the $2 trillion in waste promised as of early 2026.

Based on reports, the initiative fell significantly short of that goal, with claimed savings often being a small fraction of the promise, and in some cases, the initiatives actually resulted in net costs.

--Savings vs. Promises: While Elon Musk initially promised $2 trillion in cuts, this figure was later reduced to $1 trillion and subsequently to $150 billion. By April 2025, reports indicated actual savings were far lower than even the revised goals, with one analysis showing only about $2 billion in real, verified cuts out of over $50 billion claimed at the time.

--Inflated Claims and Errors: Analyses by the New York Times and others found that many of DOGE’s "savings" claims were inflated, inaccurate, or double-counted, with one report stating that in August 2025, DOGE overstated the savings of its largest cuts by 97%.

--Actual Costs: Studies suggested that DOGE's actions, including mass firings and disruptions, actually cost taxpayers money—estimated at $135 billion due to paid leave for federal workers, lost productivity, and costs of rehiring, without including potential revenue losses from IRS cuts.

--Workforce Reductions: DOGE was successful in cutting the federal workforce, reducing it by over 280,000 employees, which created significant disruptions in government services.

Experts noted that achieving $2 trillion in cuts was considered nearly impossible without touching major, protected programs like Social Security and Medicare.

Wait, so all the outrage from the left and on here was unwarranted?! The sky wasn’t falling? Or does what you type above upset you? It’s like damned if you do and damned if you don’t…

Still not sure what you’re trying to imply above. You’d be upset if it was more but now you’re upset that it wasn’t enough 😂 can’t make this shit up…
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #298 on: February 24, 2026, 10:44:16 PM »
Wait, so all the outrage from the left and on here was unwarranted?! The sky wasn’t falling? Or does what you type above upset you? It’s like damned if you do and damned if you don’t…

Still not sure what you’re trying to imply above. You’d be upset if it was more but now you’re upset that it wasn’t enough 😂 can’t make this shit up…

What? The Department of Government Efficiency wound up fucking up the government at a net cost of $125 billion and I am supposed to be pleased because I was proven right?
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« Reply #299 on: February 24, 2026, 11:20:24 PM »
Judging by the amount of people on Maui spending money on really expensive things maybe the economy is okay after all!
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