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Re: 2025 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #210 on: April 27, 2025, 07:40:15 AM »
Quote from: Custard’s Uber Driver on April 27, 2025, 07:38:36 AM
Also, would you have them draft the 4th OT off the board at 10 in a draft that doesn’t have a single consensus day one starting LT in the draft? I’d probably rather have the 1st choice at another position, one that the new coach obviously values.

But yeah, would be nice if Caleb learns to throw to TEs. Having said that, this guy isn’t a “traditional” TE.

Meaning he can't block well?
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Re: 2025 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #211 on: April 27, 2025, 07:40:56 AM »
“Best TE in the draft” is also not objective. Ben Johnson obviously feels Loveland fits what he wants to do best. Also heard that the guy we drafted is a much more advanced route runner.
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Re: 2025 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #212 on: April 27, 2025, 07:43:17 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 27, 2025, 07:40:15 AM
Meaning he can't block well?

That’s not his primary role. I’ve heard he’s a solid blocker who will smash LBs and DBs but probably needs to improve on inline blocking. Again, Ben Johnson didn’t bring him here to set the edge for the run game.
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Re: 2025 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #213 on: April 27, 2025, 07:44:21 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 27, 2025, 07:40:15 AM
Meaning he can't block well?

Meaning he can play outside and create separation that way, which most “traditional” TEs don’t do.
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Re: 2025 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #214 on: April 27, 2025, 07:44:53 AM »
Wut the writer said.
If the Bears hadn't gone with a pick that might help, he will help, they stayed with a "serviceable" guy who needs help from others.
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« Reply #215 on: April 27, 2025, 07:45:46 AM »
He’s going to be a major matchup problem in the passing game. A lot of TEs can be covered with a LB. That’s not going to work with this guy.
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Re: 2025 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #216 on: April 27, 2025, 07:46:16 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 27, 2025, 07:44:53 AM
Wut the writer said.
If the Bears hadn't gone with a pick that might help, he will help, they stayed with a "serviceable" guy who needs help from others.

WTF are you even trying to say here?
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« Reply #217 on: April 27, 2025, 07:54:31 AM »
This seems to mostly fit with what I’ve been hearing. This guy has him as TE1. He’s also two years younger than Warren (and a more polished route runner).

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25187695-colston-loveland-nfl-draft-2025-scouting-report-chicago-bears-te

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Re: 2025 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #218 on: April 27, 2025, 07:55:33 AM »
Quote from: Custard’s Uber Driver on April 27, 2025, 07:46:16 AM
WTF are you even trying to say here?
I'm trying to say what the writer said.

Protecting Williams with someone who is more than "serviceable" would have been a better route than picking a position that Williams doesn't throw to.
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« Reply #219 on: April 27, 2025, 07:57:31 AM »
Heard a B1G analyst say that TE1 discussion likely would have been tighter had Loveland not missed the last few games (including the Ohio State game).
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Re: 2025 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #220 on: April 27, 2025, 08:01:23 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 27, 2025, 07:55:33 AM
I'm trying to say what the writer said.

Protecting Williams with someone who is more than "serviceable" would have been a better route than picking a position that Williams doesn't throw to.

Did you even follow the fucking draft? There wasn’t a single consensus starting LT in the 1st round. Even Campbell is projected to be kicked inside at the next level. The next two guys are projected RTs. You want them to take the 4th tackle off the board and hope he works out?

Braxton Jones has been fine (i.e. not the problem). He is still pretty young and should only get better. There wasn’t no one in this draft that is an obvious upgrade.
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Re: 2025 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #221 on: April 27, 2025, 08:02:24 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 27, 2025, 07:55:33 AM
would have been a better route than picking a position that Williams doesn't throw to.

Im guessing Ben Johnson has thought of this and thinks he can make it work.
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« Reply #222 on: April 27, 2025, 08:04:10 AM »
There was not one bona fide “franchise LT” in this draft. Again, many scouts think Campbell is likely to be moved inside, and he was the consensus #1 guy. It is not a good draft for LT.
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Re: 2025 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #223 on: April 27, 2025, 08:05:41 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 27, 2025, 07:55:33 AM
I'm trying to say what the writer said.

Protecting Williams with someone who is more than "serviceable" would have been a better route than picking a position that Williams doesn't throw to.

They added an All-Pro guard and two other upgrades to the OL. It should be vastly improved.
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Re: 2025 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #224 on: April 27, 2025, 08:07:18 AM »
Last year was a far better draft for LT.
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