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WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?

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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #630 on: June 14, 2022, 02:57:45 PM »
sea levels are not rising any faster than they have in the past
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=8656483

And now for the rest of the story…

“Although sea level rise occurs on a global scale, the effects and rates are regional and local in nature. ‘Relative’ rates of sea level rise can differ from the global rate due to local factors. These include upstream flood control, erosion and regional ocean currents — and even land movement, in continuation of a centuries-long response to the weight of Ice Age glaciers.”

“In Beaufort, North Carolina, the current relative sea level rise is 3.1 millimeters annually, based on data from 1953 to 2018 at a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration tide gauge. This yearly increase is a little more than the thickness of two pennies. In Wilmington, the sea level rises 2.39 mm per year, according to data from 1935 to 2018 at a NOAA tide gauge. On the Outer Banks, over 40 years of data from the Oregon Inlet NOAA tide gauge shows an annual increase of 4.69 mm.”

“But why worry about sea level rise that’s only two or three pennies thick?”

“The global rate of sea level rise is accelerating, and those pennies will add up even more quickly. In fact, the NOAA ‘low’ global sea level rise scenario for Beaufort, for instance, predicts seas a full foot higher in the next 40 years. However, if rates continue to accelerate, NOAA forecasts say Beaufort could experience sea level rise of 2 to 4 feet over the same time.”
https://ncseagrant.ncsu.edu/coastwatch/current-issue/summer-2019/land-versus-sea/#:~:text=In%20Beaufort%2C%20North%20Carolina%2C%20the,the%20thickness%20of%20two%20pennies


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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #631 on: June 14, 2022, 03:10:49 PM »
Sea level is not rising faster. Records beginning in 1953 prove that. Well it is, but not really. The land is sinking. That is not due to human generated climate change. Well, part of it is. Sort of. And the sea level is rising too. Due to human generated climate change. 

But one volcano eruption emits more greenhouse gas in an hour than humans produce in one day. 
And it takes more energy to make a windmill than it will ever produce.
I remember when climatologists were predicting another ice age.   
« Last Edit: June 14, 2022, 03:12:36 PM by illiniray »
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #632 on: June 14, 2022, 04:50:36 PM »
All the libtards here:

“Oil companies won’t increase production !”

Reality:

https://twitter.com/Chevron/status/1531997466895196160?s=20&t=UDQnppCjVucAia2IQ45cvA
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #633 on: June 14, 2022, 05:32:52 PM »
Domestic production is still shy of of pre pandemic levels. Fox News falsely blames non-existent  regulations and the non-existent  keystone pipeline closure. The planned increases are too little too late. Even if they reach max capacity, it won't make up for Russia.

The strangest thing is giving Trump "credit" for pandemic induced low prices in 2020. Trump actually bullied the Saudis into cutting production to drive up prices to protect domestic producers.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #634 on: June 14, 2022, 05:40:14 PM »
Trump actually bullied the Saudis into cutting production to drive up prices to protect domestic producers.

Link? Credible source?
« Last Edit: June 14, 2022, 05:42:02 PM by Judge Judy »
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #635 on: June 14, 2022, 06:02:28 PM »
Link? Credible source?

You want me to do your homework?

Oil Nations, Prodded by Trump, Reach Deal to Slash Production https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/business/energy-environment/opec-russia-saudi-arabia-oil-coronavirus.html

Special Report: Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-oil-trump-saudi-specialreport-idUSKBN22C1V4

Trump calls on Russia and Saudi Arabia to cut oil production
Data released by the federal Energy Information Administration this week showed gasoline demand in the U.S. plummeting and oil inventories surging.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/02/trump-calls-on-russia-and-saudi-arabia-to-cut-oil-production-161368

Trump plays key role in brokering historic oil deal
The production cut gives so much needed relief to a U.S. shale patch that has been devastated ...
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/trump-saudi-arabia-russia-opec-oil-deal-role

OPEC, oil nations agree to nearly 10M barrel cut amid virus. https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-ap-top-news-international-news-saudi-arabia-e9b73ec833e9a5ad304a69e3b9b86914

Trump reportedly warned Saudis to cut oil supply or lose US military support
https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/trump-warned-saudis-to-cut-oil-supply-or-lose-us-military-support-report/
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #636 on: June 14, 2022, 06:43:55 PM »
From the AP story ..

"This is at least a temporary relief for the energy industry and for the global economy. This industry is too big to be let to fail and the alliance showed responsibility with this agreement,” said Per Magnus Nysveen, the head of analysis at Rystad Energy. “Even though the production cuts are smaller than what the market needed and only postpone the stock building constraints problem, the worst is for now avoided.”

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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #637 on: June 14, 2022, 06:51:15 PM »


“The global rate of sea level rise is accelerating,

except its not, if you go and look at the data it is rising or even lowering in some spots at the same rate it has for the over 160 years we have been recording levels

saying "its going to accelerate" is bullshit and you know it kikebot
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #638 on: June 14, 2022, 07:15:59 PM »
From the AP story ..

"This is at least a temporary relief for the energy industry and for the global economy. This industry is too big to be let to fail and the alliance showed responsibility with this agreement,” said Per Magnus Nysveen, the head of analysis at Rystad Energy. “Even though the production cuts are smaller than what the market needed and only postpone the stock building constraints problem, the worst is for now avoided.”

I guess you must have a point?

My point is Fox is giving Trump for low prices that were due to high production and low demand.  Two years ago Fox was giving Trump credit for a deal to cut production in the hopes of raising prices.

Fox  is now mocking Biden for urging the Saudis to increase production. Two years ago, Fox was praising Trump for urging the Saudis to cut protection.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2022, 07:18:15 PM by illiniray »
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #639 on: June 14, 2022, 07:17:29 PM »
except its not, if you go and look at the data it is rising or even lowering in some spots at the same rate it has for the over 160 years we have been recording levels

saying "its going to accelerate" is bullshit and you know it kikebot

Global versus some spots?
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #640 on: June 14, 2022, 07:22:24 PM »
Link? Credible source?

Living through it should have been enough (if you were remotely paying attention...like when they were literally paying people to take oil during the pandemic when demand cratered...https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/business/dealbook/oil-price-negative.html)
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #641 on: June 14, 2022, 07:25:24 PM »
except its not, if you go and look at the data it is rising or even lowering in some spots at the same rate it has for the over 160 years we have been recording levels

saying "its going to accelerate" is bullshit and you know it kikebot

I've seen the time lapse estimates for Martha's Vineyard. It will be nice to have beachfront property at least for awhile.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #642 on: June 14, 2022, 08:18:24 PM »
I guess you must have a point?

My point is Fox is giving Trump for low prices that were due to high production and low demand.  Two years ago Fox was giving Trump credit for a deal to cut production in the hopes of raising prices.

Fox  is now mocking Biden for urging the Saudis to increase production. Two years ago, Fox was praising Trump for urging the Saudis to cut protection.
Your "point" appeared to be that Trump "bullied".

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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #643 on: June 14, 2022, 08:47:06 PM »
Your "point" appeared to be that Trump "bullied".

That was a side point. According to NY Post and Reuter's he threatened the Saudis.

The main point was Fox is in the present day giving him credit those low price prices back then. The irony is obvious even to me.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #644 on: June 14, 2022, 08:50:28 PM »
I've seen the time lapse estimates for Martha's Vineyard. It will be nice to have beachfront property at least for awhile.

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=8447930

should be ok for another 500-1000 years
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