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The most important election of our lives

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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #570 on: December 30, 2024, 05:38:35 PM »
Your bitter hatred of Trump prevents you from having any objectivity whatsoever when it comes to Democrats/media/etc. It’s ok, you’re obviously not alone. But once again Mn and I were pointing this out ages ago and all the left and the media did was hide it and gaslight the rest of us.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #571 on: December 30, 2024, 07:19:24 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 30, 2024, 05:38:35 PM
Your bitter hatred of Trump prevents you from having any objectivity whatsoever when it comes to Democrats/media/etc. It’s ok, you’re obviously not alone. But once again Mn and I were pointing this out ages ago and all the left and the media did was hide it and gaslight the rest of us.
Yeah, but Trump played golf all the time.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #572 on: December 30, 2024, 07:48:45 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 30, 2024, 07:19:24 PM
Yeah, but Trump played golf all the time.

Mean tweets
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #573 on: December 30, 2024, 09:09:45 PM »
Your hatred of the liberals, minorities, poor people,  the disabled, and the elderly blinds you to what Trump is all about. You are okay with him because he hates the same people you hate.

See how easy it is easy to put motives into other's minds?
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #574 on: December 30, 2024, 10:04:14 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 30, 2024, 07:48:45 PM
Mean tweets
He had Russian prostitutes piss on the bed
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #575 on: December 30, 2024, 11:45:59 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 30, 2024, 09:09:45 PM
Your hatred of the liberals, minorities, poor people,  the disabled, and the elderly blinds you to what Trump is all about. You are okay with him because he hates the same people you hate.

See how easy it is easy to put motives into other's minds?

I’m not sure how this is analogous. Murph, PAit, Alum, etc along with now widening swaths of the center-left have all acknowledged that the situation with Biden’s decline wasn’t handled well. It was whitewashed and covered up. Mn and I were talking about that this spring and summer leading up to the debate and people acted like we were nuts at the time. Pointing that out as a concern isn’t cheerleading for Trump or hatred towards Biden.

You, a normally free thinking person, seem to have a very binary viewpoint on this, where it seems you believe that pointing out the obvious in regards to Biden is seditious and instinctively retort with “what about Trump”
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #576 on: December 31, 2024, 06:24:55 AM »
Quote from: Custard on December 30, 2024, 11:45:59 PM
"...... people acted like we were nuts at the time."
 “what about Trump”
I don't think it's ended. 😂

Trump had a direct line to a bank in Russia.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #577 on: December 31, 2024, 08:16:47 AM »
Democrats didn't turn on Biden until it became obvious he couldn't be reelected.  Shocking.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #578 on: December 31, 2024, 09:13:03 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 31, 2024, 08:16:47 AM
Democrats didn't turn on Biden until it became obvious he couldn't be reelected.  Shocking.
Lol.

An NBC interview 2 weeks before the election.....

"That's why I ask. Can the American people trust you in these moments, even when it's maybe uncomfortable… to level with Americans in that way? So that's why I ask," Jackson said. "And it sounds like what you're saying is you feel like you never saw anything like that from President Biden."

"I have worked with Joe Biden, whether- hours and hours and hours over these four years, whether it be in the Situation Room or the Oval Office… I speak with not only sincerity, but with a real firsthand account of watching him do this work. I have no reluctance in saying that. No, of course I don't." Harris said."

Some of the Democrats turned on Biden after the media started their should have known better apology tour.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #579 on: December 31, 2024, 09:24:52 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 31, 2024, 06:24:55 AM
I don't think it's ended. 😂

Trump had a direct line to a bank in Russia.

What that in the Steele dossier?

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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #580 on: December 31, 2024, 12:07:34 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 30, 2024, 02:00:42 PM
And I’m the one telling people how they think? You and others fall into the trap of “lesser of two evils” and “whataboutism” that ensures we are stuck in this vicious circle of shitty candidates.

Custard cries about whataboutism, while employing the use of whataboutism.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #581 on: December 31, 2024, 12:23:21 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 31, 2024, 09:24:52 AM
What that in the Steele dossier?


Quote from: Custard on December 31, 2024, 09:24:52 AM
What that in the Steele dossier?


An "opposition research project" that was nothing of the sort. The FBI knew it and it was the beginning of the rapid descent of US politics. It will take a long time for the country to recover.
Thanks, Hillary. And thanks to everybody in the Biden administration who knew.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #582 on: December 31, 2024, 12:39:22 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 31, 2024, 09:24:52 AM
What that in the Steele dossier?


Nope. The Alfa Bank story was a different farce than the Steele dossier.

"On August 22, Antonakakis sent a lengthy email to the group expressing more doubts:

Let[‘]s for a moment think of the best case scenario, where we are able to show (somehow) that DNS communication exists between Trump and R[ussia]. How do we plan to defend against the criticism that this is not spoofed traffic we are observing? There is no answer to that. Let’s assume again that they are not smart enough to refute our “best case” scenario. [Tech Executive-I], you do realize that we will have to expose every trick we have in our bag to even make a very weak association? Let[‘]s all reflect upon that for a moment. Sorry folks, but unless we get combine netflow and DNS traffic collected at critical points between suspect organizations, we cannot technically make any claims that would fly public scrutiny.

“The only thing that drives us at this point is that we just do not like [Trump],” Antonakakis added. “This will not fly in eyes of public scrutiny. Folks, I am afraid we have tunnel vision. Time to regroup?”

https://www.thecollegefix.com/georgia-tech-researcher-discussed-using-bag-of-tricks-to-prove-trump-russia-collusion/

The FBI decided they couldn't use the Alfa Bank story but the damage had been done. It was just another arrow in the quiver.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #583 on: December 31, 2024, 03:28:46 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 31, 2024, 12:23:21 PM
An "opposition research project" that was nothing of the sort. The FBI knew it and it was the beginning of the rapid descent of US politics. It will take a long time for the country to recover.
Thanks, Hillary. And thanks to everybody in the Biden administration who knew.

Ever hear of The Arkansas Project?

Robert Fiske, Ken Starr, Robert Ray?

Birtherism? The Brody File? Michelle / Michael? The edited speeches? The misquoted  book passages? The lies about Valerie Jarrett?

Don't get me started. That crap began my slow transition away from the Republican Party.

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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #584 on: December 31, 2024, 05:05:00 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 31, 2024, 03:28:46 PM
Ever hear of The Arkansas Project?

Robert Fiske, Ken Starr, Robert Ray?

Birtherism? The Brody File? Michelle / Michael? The edited speeches? The misquoted  book passages? The lies about Valerie Jarrett?

Don't get me started. That crap began my slow transition away from the Republican Party.

Yet you won’t criticize or even acknowledge when the democrats do it. Just deflect. Just the other day you told us they don’t lie.
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