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The most important election of our lives

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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #555 on: December 26, 2024, 02:04:28 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 26, 2024, 01:47:36 PM
Reagan's presidency and alleged Alzheimer's has absolutely nothing to do with Biden.

My point to Nichi…
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #556 on: December 26, 2024, 02:05:24 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 26, 2024, 02:00:12 PM
Lindy Li has a name.
Robert Hur has a name.
The Gold Star family members of those killed at Abbey Gate have put their names on having to wait for Biden to finish his nap at Dover AFB.
Biden tried a televised debate that didn't go very well.
Karine Jean Pierre repeatedly tried to tell the American public that Biden's gaffes on video were fake news.
Someone named IlliniRay tried to tell a small group of morons on a website somewhere that Biden has a stutter.



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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #557 on: December 26, 2024, 02:36:59 PM »
Still cracks me up how all the people who consume news that protected Biden at all costs were so shocked at his debate performance. Post-debate Illiniray gave us some excuses, including his own diagnosis of Biden’s cognitive issues.

I think people, particularly the TDS folks, had their heads so buried in the sand because they were offended by the Sleepy Joe stuff that they couldn’t allow themselves to believe that what everyone outside their echo chamber was saying was actually true.

It isn’t that the right wing or moderates (or anyone paying any attention at all) hated Joe Biden by pointing these things out, it’s that making factual statements about the sitting president’s clear cognitive decline was treated with such derision that it made people wonder what the hell was actually happening.

Now we known that there was a very coordinated campaign in which the media was fed the same “Joe is sharp as a tack” talking points, which they parroted at every turn, right up until they literally turned on him and demanded he step down as the candidate. To protect democracy lol.

Exact same situation as the Wuhan lab thing. When the narrative machine is clearly working overtime, it immediately makes me question the motive and pushes me to believe the opposite of what they’re trying to get me to believe.

When it comes to Joe Biden’s cognitive abilities, shall I trust my own lying eyes, or the propaganda wing of the administration? The same news folks told us it was for sure zoonotic and definitely not a lab leak, then eventually said well we don’t actually know and probably never will because China isn’t cooperating.

I don’t know whether it came from the lab or was zoonotic or from Randy fucking a pangolin in China like in the South Park Pandemic Special. I think it’s important that we find out, because the implications of having an engineered virus (that we funded) escaping from a foreign lab in an antagonistic country are fucking
terrifying. It’s orders of magnitude worse than a zoonotic origin. I’m sure the folks in China obfuscating everything are well aware of that fact, even if some folks want to pretend otherwise.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #558 on: December 26, 2024, 02:53:04 PM »
Even if it was a lab leak, it could be a naturally occuring virus that was mishandled and not engineered.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #559 on: December 26, 2024, 03:26:38 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 26, 2024, 02:53:04 PM
Even if it was a lab leak, it could be a naturally occuring virus that was mishandled and not engineered.

Sure.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #560 on: December 26, 2024, 05:39:59 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 26, 2024, 02:53:04 PM
Even if it was a lab leak, it could be a naturally occuring virus that was mishandled and not engineered.
I'm not sure that there is much to support that other than "there's always a chance."

Engineering has some structure to it. Doing gain of function research on a naturally occuring virus with some manipulations and running things thru a bunch of humanized mice to see what happens isn't exactly 'engineering'.
I agree that Covid wasn't 'engineered.'
I agree that it was probably mishandled and not deliberate. I sure hope so.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #561 on: December 30, 2024, 05:59:04 AM »
Quote from: Custard on December 26, 2024, 02:36:59 PM
I don’t know whether it came from the lab or was zoonotic or from Randy fucking a pangolin in China like in the South Park Pandemic Special. I think it’s important that we find out, because the implications of having an engineered virus (that we funded) escaping from a foreign lab in an antagonistic country are fucking
terrifying. It’s orders of magnitude worse than a zoonotic origin. I’m sure the folks in China obfuscating everything are well aware of that fact, even if some folks want to pretend otherwise.

We have to find out because if it's a lab leak we would do... what?
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #562 on: December 30, 2024, 09:58:13 AM »
Quote from: Custard on December 26, 2024, 02:36:59 PM
Still cracks me up how all the people who consume news that protected Biden at all costs were so shocked at his debate performance. Post-debate Illiniray gave us some excuses, including his own diagnosis of Biden’s cognitive issues.

I think people, particularly the TDS folks, had their heads so buried in the sand because they were offended by the Sleepy Joe stuff that they couldn’t allow themselves to believe that what everyone outside their echo chamber was saying was actually true.

It isn’t that the right wing or moderates (or anyone paying any attention at all) hated Joe Biden by pointing these things out, it’s that making factual statements about the sitting president’s clear cognitive decline was treated with such derision that it made people wonder what the hell was actually happening.

Now we known that there was a very coordinated campaign in which the media was fed the same “Joe is sharp as a tack” talking points, which they parroted at every turn, right up until they literally turned on him and demanded he step down as the candidate. To protect democracy lol.

Exact same situation as the Wuhan lab thing. When the narrative machine is clearly working overtime, it immediately makes me question the motive and pushes me to believe the opposite of what they’re trying to get me to believe.

When it comes to Joe Biden’s cognitive abilities, shall I trust my own lying eyes, or the propaganda wing of the administration? The same news folks told us it was for sure zoonotic and definitely not a lab leak, then eventually said well we don’t actually know and probably never will because China isn’t cooperating.

I don’t know whether it came from the lab or was zoonotic or from Randy fucking a pangolin in China like in the South Park Pandemic Special. I think it’s important that we find out, because the implications of having an engineered virus (that we funded) escaping from a foreign lab in an antagonistic country are fucking
terrifying. It’s orders of magnitude worse than a zoonotic origin. I’m sure the folks in China obfuscating everything are well aware of that fact, even if some folks want to pretend otherwise.

I’d take Joe’s struggles with coherency over Trump’s paranoid struggles with megalomania.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #563 on: December 30, 2024, 10:27:55 AM »
Quote from: ThePAStrawMan on December 30, 2024, 09:58:13 AM
I’d take Joe’s struggles with coherency over Trump’s paranoid struggles with megalomania.

Of course you would. They count on us having the lowest of low bar expectations.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #564 on: December 30, 2024, 10:40:32 AM »
Quote from: Custard on December 30, 2024, 10:27:55 AM
Of course you would. They count on us having the lowest of low bar expectations.

Not surprising you’d choose a megalomaniac
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #565 on: December 30, 2024, 01:39:03 PM »
Nice of Custard to tell us what we are really thinking. We can just stop posting our thoughts and wait to see what he says about us.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #566 on: December 30, 2024, 01:49:38 PM »
Quote from: ThePAStrawMan on December 30, 2024, 09:58:13 AM
I’d take Joe’s struggles with coherency over Trump’s paranoid struggles with megalomania.

Trump isn't particularly coherent either. He seems to hold multiple conflicting incorrect positions at the same time.

Plus, we are still waiting for his great healthcare plan, and for Mexico to pay for that wall.

Biden, OTOH, is more of a doer than a talker.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5053542-biden-5-things-accomplishments/
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #567 on: December 30, 2024, 02:00:42 PM »
Quote from: ThePAStrawMan on December 30, 2024, 10:40:32 AM
Not surprising you’d choose a megalomaniac

And I’m the one telling people how they think? You and others fall into the trap of “lesser of two evils” and “whataboutism” that ensures we are stuck in this vicious circle of shitty candidates.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #568 on: December 30, 2024, 04:09:49 PM »


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14236081/Biden-obvious-cognitive-decline-underreported-story.html

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Jan Crawford, CBS' chief legal correspondent, blasted media that failed to cover his decline – mainly liberal outlets including The Washington Post - until the topic became 'undeniable' during his trainweck debate against Donald Trump.

Crawford, during the year-end correspondents roundtable on CBS' Face the Nation, was asked Sunday morning what the most 'undercovered and underreported' topic was this year.

'That would be, to me, Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline that became undeniable in the televised debate,' she said. 'Unquestioned.'

The contributor, who has been a regular on CBS News since 2005, cited the Wall Street Journal's explosive investigation earlier this month that exposed an extensive, deliberate White House cover-up to hide Biden's rapidly diminishing mental condition from the public throughout his entire presidency.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #569 on: December 30, 2024, 04:52:37 PM »
Some downplay; others exaggerate. It's called spin.
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