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The most important election of our lives

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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #450 on: December 19, 2024, 04:19:33 PM »
I remember MN griping about 'ballot harvesting' benefiting Democrats. There were other special pandemic rules that made it easier to vote and easier to cure ballots with problems.

If it's easier to vote, if there are fewer hoops to jump through, this tends to help Democrats more than Republicans.

My impression is that Democrat turnout was down in blue and red states. They won blue states by narrower margins. They lost red states by bigger margins. They lost swing states they previously won.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #451 on: December 19, 2024, 04:35:16 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 19, 2024, 11:20:05 AM
Perfect.
Election security favored one party over the other. Wtf were they thinking ? 😂
"Special rules", lol, made it easier to favor Democrats. 😂

Good grief man. You complained incessantly that the pandemic rules gave Democrats an unfair advantage.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #452 on: December 19, 2024, 05:29:43 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 19, 2024, 04:35:16 PM
Good grief man. You complained incessantly

fixed. Grandpa Simpson got nothing on Mn
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #453 on: December 19, 2024, 06:11:20 PM »
High turnout doesn't necessarily benefit Democrats over Republicans. Who benefits depends on where the higher turn out is. Higher turnout in densely populated urban areas is going to benefit Democrats.

It's generally a lot more hassle to vote in person in densely populated urban areas. Make it easier to vote by mail, by collection boxes, by ballot harvesting, by in person early voting, and so on is going to increase turnout in urban areas, and benefit Democrats.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #454 on: December 19, 2024, 08:16:45 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 19, 2024, 04:35:16 PM
Good grief man. You complained incessantly that the pandemic rules gave Democrats an unfair advantage.

It appears that’s still what he’s saying.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #455 on: December 19, 2024, 08:20:40 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 19, 2024, 04:19:33 PM
I remember MN griping about 'ballot harvesting' benefiting Democrats. There were other special pandemic rules that made it easier to vote and easier to cure ballots with problems.

If it's easier to vote, if there are fewer hoops to jump through, this tends to help Democrats more than Republicans.

My impression is that Democrat turnout was down in blue and red states. They won blue states by narrower margins. They lost red states by bigger margins. They lost swing states they previously won.

The “turnout” was so big because the bull shit pandemic special rules allowed for a bunch of fuckery. Almost like it was….planned!

Don’t see how making it easier to vote, like actually vote, helps democrats. Aren’t they super smart and educated? What you mean is they just made it easier to cheat. Which is why we had 10 million or whatever more votes than any other year in a campaign between two awful candidates. And then it went back to normal when there was more security.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #456 on: December 19, 2024, 08:50:34 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 19, 2024, 08:20:40 PM
The “turnout” was so big because the bull shit pandemic special rules allowed for a bunch of fuckery. Almost like it was….planned!

Don’t see how making it easier to vote, like actually vote, helps democrats. Aren’t they super smart and educated? What you mean is they just made it easier to cheat. Which is why we had 10 million or whatever more votes than any other year in a campaign between two awful candidates. And then it went back to normal when there was more security.

Delusional.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #457 on: December 19, 2024, 09:18:51 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 19, 2024, 08:20:40 PM
The “turnout” was so big because the bull shit pandemic special rules allowed for a bunch of fuckery. Almost like it was….planned!

Don’t see how making it easier to vote, like actually vote, helps democrats. Aren’t they super smart and educated? What you mean is they just made it easier to cheat. Which is why we had 10 million or whatever more votes than any other year in a campaign between two awful candidates. And then it went back to normal when there was more security.

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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #458 on: December 19, 2024, 11:22:25 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 19, 2024, 08:50:34 PM
Delusional.

Delusional is thinking 10 million plus more people showed up to vote during a pandemic because it was “easier”

Half the country could barely go out to eat or get a haircut. The relaxed restrictions ray mentioned allowed rampant BS to happen. They mysteriously disappeared in 2024.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #459 on: December 20, 2024, 12:05:10 AM »
Quote from: Custard on December 19, 2024, 11:22:25 PM
Delusional is thinking 10 million plus more people showed up to vote during a pandemic because it was “easier”

Half the country could barely go out to eat or get a haircut. The relaxed restrictions ray mentioned allowed rampant BS to happen. They mysteriously disappeared in 2024.

Not sure the actual numbers jive with this narrative
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #460 on: December 20, 2024, 12:36:46 AM »
Quote from: Custard on December 19, 2024, 11:22:25 PM
Half the country could barely go out to eat or get a haircut. The relaxed restrictions ray mentioned allowed rampant BS to happen. They mysteriously disappeared in 2024.

Voting takes time. In big cities, it can take a LOT of time. In 2020, we couldn't go out to eat or get a haircut. So people had a lot of time on their hands.

Side note: If you cooked at home instead of eating out, maybe you'd be a billionaire and not be so fat.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #461 on: December 20, 2024, 12:43:58 AM »
Only in the US with the most advanced voting machines does it take ages to get votes counted. Especially California, the hub of everything wrong with America.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #462 on: December 20, 2024, 12:52:43 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on December 20, 2024, 12:36:46 AM
Voting takes time. In big cities, it can take a LOT of time. In 2020, we couldn't go out to eat or get a haircut. So people had a lot of time on their hands.

Side note: If you cooked at home instead of eating out, maybe you'd be a billionaire and not be so fat.

I post more pictures of me cooking at home than anyone else here, which is why I’m so fat. PAMan and JJ had to escort me to the stadium in my Rascal when we tailgated.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #463 on: December 20, 2024, 07:25:10 AM »
"Special rules" in Wisconsin placed ballot boxes across the state for 2020. The court, well after the election, said the boxes were unconstitutional.
Wisconsin vastly expanded their "indefinitely confined" voter designation with a "special rule" that bypassed voter ID. The expansion was so "special" that no other states did it.

Georgia election laws were modified by a "special rule" between the SoS and an outside group that bypassed the legislature, the group tasked with election laws.
A group is still trying to get ballot data from Fulton Co Ga. for the 2020 election. Fulton Co has fought tooth and nail to prevent anyone from the ballot data. Maricopa Co Az has been doing the same thing.
Atlanta lost the All Star game because their Jim Crowe2 laws were said to be so egregious. The laws were more lenient in some aspects than in Biden's home state of Delaware, but that didn't matter.

A "special rule" memo went out to county election precincts in Pa about changes in the "curing" process. It only went to Democrat precincts.

Minnesota tried to put in a "special rule" but the courts struck it down.

Eric Coomer, Dominion's director of product strategy and security, is alleged to have said "Don't worry about the election. Trump is not going to win, I made fucking sure of that. Hahaha."
A private company controls the voting systems for the entire country and a director allegedly said that they essentially have control over election results.
Don't bother trying to get into Dominion's systems to analyze data.

Countries across the globe require voter ID and have essentially immediate election results. We're told that Voter ID is not fair, it's racist etc and mail-in ballots don't necessarily require a postmark, can be received days late and it may take up to a month to count the ballots.

"Special rules" you know.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #464 on: December 20, 2024, 07:49:27 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 19, 2024, 11:23:02 AM
Wasn't the lower turnout in the Blue enclaves?
They didn't feel the need to protect the United States from Trump, the existential threat to democracy.
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