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WTF is going on in NC?

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WTF is going on in NC?
« on: October 08, 2024, 01:31:23 PM »
FEMA confiscating privately donated supplies, Blackhawk choppers intentionally rotor washing volunteer setup sites and destroying them, obfuscation on the ground, etc. Have been hearing about it from friends who are at ground zero working to help restore power and also volunteers from church. Now it’s popping up all over social media.
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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2024, 01:39:32 PM »
FEMA confiscating privately donated supplies, Blackhawk choppers intentionally rotor washing volunteer setup sites and destroying them, obfuscation on the ground, etc. Have been hearing about it from friends who are at ground zero working to help restore power and also volunteers from church. Now it’s popping up all over social media.

My brother lives near Asheville and can confirm FEMA is doing this. That’s fucking insane!!
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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2024, 01:55:21 PM »
They have a right to seize it and do inventory apparently. But there’s seems to be some fuckery going on as well. See all the outreach folks saying to send a motorcycle advance scout in to survey areas before going into them and getting all your stuff taken away to who knows where. And to set up distribution sites at churches because they have limited power at this point to seize those sites.
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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2024, 02:32:21 PM »
Today's Twitter hurricane recovery updates at a glance:

-White people are being dragged from their homes in North Carolina and hung from the beams of their roofs, by roaming bands of jack-booted FEMA troops in storm ravaged areas.
-Migrants are being assigned numbers by FEMA and forming a line outside, to rape white women inside of flooded homes in North Carolina.
-Harris is personally diverting aid from North Carolina and sending sandbags, drywall supplies, bleach and bottled water to Lebanon, Gaza and Hamas/Hezbollah.
-Hurricane Milton is being steered by secret weather creation technology, but they've lost control.

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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2024, 02:33:15 PM »
Rumor: Donations, volunteers turned away at checkpoints.

Facts: Western N.C. roads are still dangerous and impassible in many places, and landslides remain a threat. Traffic is being rerouted on some roads so emergency vehicles, disaster relief efforts and local traffic can still access them.
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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2024, 02:38:04 PM »
Rumor: Governments are discouraging and confiscating donations.

Facts: The state encourages financial donations to the North Carolina Disaster Relief Fund and to N.C. volunteer organizations responding to the disaster. The state is working with the organizations to collect and distribute physical donations coming in from across the state and country.

Coordinated volunteer disaster relief efforts are needed in Western North Carolina, according to the NC Department of Public Safety.

“We strongly encourage neighbors to continue helping neighbors in impacted areas,” department officials said. “Those wishing to volunteer should register at www.nc.gov/volunteer,” and not “self-deploy” to the region.

But emergency officials are asking people not to show up on their own bringing supplies.

In Banner Elk, the fire and rescue department posted on Facebook that the outpouring of donations has met their needs for the next week, and that the wave of suppliers are creating a “bottleneck” that compromises their already strained infrastructure.

“Cash donations offer voluntary agencies and faith-based organizations the most flexibility to address urgently developing needs,” NC Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster President Kristy Kulberg said in a news release. “Although the need is great, and desire to help strong, it is important to avoid donating material goods or self-deploying to help until communities are safe and public officials and disaster relief organizations have had an opportunity to assess the damage to identify what the specific unmet needs are.”
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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2024, 02:53:08 PM »
Lots of distrust of government in North Carolina, and I get it.  However, it sure looks like people from different parts of the political spectrum are finding a way to work together in their hurricane recovery efforts. 

“Along with FEMA assistance, volunteers and community food and supply drives help fill the gaps, and these efforts sometimes lead to striking displays of non-partisanship.”

“In Swannanoa, N.C., wedding photographer Michael Freas drops off a Starlink internet receiver to a park where another grassroots relief effort has sprung up. His contribution earns him a comforting hug from one of the volunteers in charge of the donation table.”

“’I think with the climate, with how everything [was] pre-storm, I haven't heard one talk about this or that,’ he says, referring to how politically charged his interactions had been before tragedy put everyone on common ground.”

“In fact, Freas says, he’s been having unexpectedly poignant moments with people on the other end of the political spectrum — including with one stranger who parked a car covered in MAGA bumper stickers on the same bridge from which Freas surveyed the damage to south Asheville.”

“They looked over the destruction, then hugged — a moment of empathy that would have been unimaginable just a week earlier.”
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/07/g-s1-26584/helene-recovery-north-carolina-tennessee-flooding-fema

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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2024, 03:52:15 PM »
Apparently Eric Trump went to Chimney Rock and has been looting houses.

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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2024, 03:55:47 PM »
Rumor: Governments are discouraging and confiscating donations.

Facts: The state encourages financial donations to the North Carolina Disaster Relief Fund and to N.C. volunteer organizations responding to the disaster. The state is working with the organizations to collect and distribute physical donations coming in from across the state and country.

Coordinated volunteer disaster relief efforts are needed in Western North Carolina, according to the NC Department of Public Safety.

“We strongly encourage neighbors to continue helping neighbors in impacted areas,” department officials said. “Those wishing to volunteer should register at www.nc.gov/volunteer,” and not “self-deploy” to the region.

But emergency officials are asking people not to show up on their own bringing supplies.

In Banner Elk, the fire and rescue department posted on Facebook that the outpouring of donations has met their needs for the next week, and that the wave of suppliers are creating a “bottleneck” that compromises their already strained infrastructure.

“Cash donations offer voluntary agencies and faith-based organizations the most flexibility to address urgently developing needs,” NC Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster President Kristy Kulberg said in a news release. “Although the need is great, and desire to help strong, it is important to avoid donating material goods or self-deploying to help until communities are safe and public officials and disaster relief organizations have had an opportunity to assess the damage to identify what the specific unmet needs are.”

He’s got facts, folks. Those people on the ground don’t know shit. Of course they want cash lol
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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2024, 03:57:52 PM »
Rumor: Donations, volunteers turned away at checkpoints.

Facts: Western N.C. roads are still dangerous and impassible in many places, and landslides remain a threat. Traffic is being rerouted on some roads so emergency vehicles, disaster relief efforts and local traffic can still access them.

While these guys are definitely well intentioned and some stuff does get to some where - there was a YouTube of the Berm Peak guy and his friends, the friends went to a Costco in Knoxville, and drove like 12 hours with a sprinter van, and eventually were trying to get into North Carolina on some "road" through a state park that word was, could be cleared.

Well they got turned around because two other good samaritans tried to do the same thing with semis, and jackknifed the semi trucks, so not only did their supplies not get in, but one of the few passable roads in the area is now completely jacked up.

Good for all of them for trying but this shit gotta be coordinated once you've gotten past the "helicopters dropping palettes of water" stage

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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2024, 04:05:03 PM »
He’s got facts, folks. Those people on the ground don’t know shit. Of course they want cash lol



2:05 - Random hillbilles and presumably Eric Trump have been hijacking good samaritans
11:50 - semi trucks jack up road



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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2024, 04:09:31 PM »
He’s got facts, folks. Those people on the ground don’t know shit. Of course they want cash lol

My wife worked a couple of weeks of disaster relief for a couple fires.

The reason they want cash is because the people who are very good intentioned often bring in the most useless crap. Piles of their old t-shirts, one random pair of underwear they said has never been worn, etc... All that ends up doing is sucking up volunteer time.

The bikes and beards guys - palettes of water, diapers, baby formula, that can probably be used at every drop point and is bulk and easy to deal with. But he also wanted to grab a few stuffed animals. If that actually gets to a kid, great, but most likely they end up taking their truck to someplace that has no idea what to do with a stuffed animal and it just gets chucked into the debris pile and that money got wasted, and using all that gas to drive a sprinter van 12 hours probably isn't the best plan either.

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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2024, 04:15:48 PM »
If you execute the white hillbillies, we don't have to give them that $750 and we can spend it on hookers and blow.
- Official FEMA memo

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Re: WTF is going on in NC?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2024, 04:30:32 PM »
If you execute the white hillbillies, we don't have to give them that $750 and we can spend it on hookers and blow.
- Official FEMA memo

Now we know Trump reads this board because he just used that in a campaign speech