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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #120 on: October 01, 2024, 03:17:42 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on October 01, 2024, 03:06:01 PM
By the way, I believe Pierre Pierce did fucking prison time for that shit he pulled. He was...guilty. Not the same.

He was suspended immediately, for a full season, on being charged with third degree sexual battery, something that you guys now insist was a violation of his civil rights.  He pled down to a misdemeanor and served no jail time and received a deferred judgment (so the charge was erased from his record after probation).

He was then allowed back on the team and granted a redshirt year.  Four years later, he was dismissed outright from the team before he was even charged with anything, after police confirmed he was the target of an investigation.  Neither time he was arrested did they wait until he was convicted to suspend him from basketball, and no one anywhere that I can tell took umbrage with that or thought his civil rights were being violated.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #121 on: October 01, 2024, 03:18:07 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on October 01, 2024, 03:14:39 PM
Do you ever go to Streator? If so, is the root beer place still there?

Haha, no. I have absolutely no reason to visit the fine village of Streator.

As far as the root beer place, probably. Those things tend to survive.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #122 on: October 01, 2024, 03:19:17 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on October 01, 2024, 02:55:02 PM
They only do it on Saturdays tho.

Is there a long line?
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #123 on: October 01, 2024, 03:19:22 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 01, 2024, 03:13:30 PM
Looks like Calvin was wrong too. He's not here, for example, telling Nichi he's an idiot for being right.

You also don't follow him around like an angry terrier screaming about what a piece of shit and liar he is for not agreeing with the judge's ruling.  You don't view his disagreement with the ruling as a lack of conscience, or attack him personally for it.

Probably a coincidence.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #124 on: October 01, 2024, 03:20:39 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on October 01, 2024, 03:17:42 PM
He was suspended immediately, for a full season, on being charged with third degree sexual battery, something that you guys now insist was a violation of his civil rights.  He pled down to a misdemeanor and served no jail time and received a deferred judgment (so the charge was erased from his record after probation).

He was then allowed back on the team and granted a redshirt year.  Four years later, he was dismissed outright from the team before he was even charged with anything, after police confirmed he was the target of an investigation.  Neither time he was arrested did they wait until he was convicted to suspend him from basketball, and no one anywhere that I can tell took umbrage with that or thought his civil rights were being violated.

Ok, well, you can see how much of a fuck I give about Pierre Pierce. Which is zero.

Him and Steve Alford are both pieces of shit. I'll stand behind that one.

He was convicted of a crime, yeah? Was TSJ?
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #125 on: October 01, 2024, 03:21:14 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on October 01, 2024, 03:19:22 PM
You also don't follow him around like an angry terrier screaming about what a piece of shit and liar he is for not agreeing with the judge's ruling.  You don't view his disagreement with the ruling as a lack of conscience, or attack him personally for it.

Probably a coincidence.

He's not a fucking jackass piece of shit like you are. So there is that.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #126 on: October 01, 2024, 03:21:24 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on October 01, 2024, 03:19:17 PM
Is there a long line?

Sometimes. I try to get there right when they open, to beat the crowd.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #127 on: October 01, 2024, 03:23:02 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on October 01, 2024, 03:20:39 PM
Ok, well, you can see how much of a fuck I give about Pierre Pierce. Which is zero.

Him and Steve Alford are both pieces of shit. I'll stand behind that one.

He was convicted of a crime, yeah? Was TSJ?

Neither had been convicted of a crime when they were suspended.  You're trying to conflate the ultimate outcome of the case, which we did not know when we were discussing whether UI should be able to suspend him and the TRO was granted, with whether the AD should've had the right to suspend him from basketball.

If it was a violation of TSJ's civil rights to suspend him from basketball pre-conviction, then it was a violation of Pierre Pierce's civil rights when Iowa did it too, whether he was guilty or not.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #128 on: October 01, 2024, 03:23:11 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on October 01, 2024, 03:21:24 PM
Sometimes. I try to get there right when they open, to beat the crowd.

Ah smart
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #129 on: October 01, 2024, 03:23:30 PM »
Dan Bernstein is pretty much a piece of shit, but I will give him credit for going after Steve Alford. Dan actually did a great job on that.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #130 on: October 01, 2024, 03:23:47 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 01, 2024, 03:21:14 PM
He's not a fucking jackass piece of shit like you are. So there is that.

He just says all the same stuff I say that makes you call me a fucking jackass piece of shit, with none of the rage-spittle reaction.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #131 on: October 01, 2024, 03:24:17 PM »
Maybe Pierre Pierce needed better lawyers....
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #132 on: October 01, 2024, 03:25:22 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on October 01, 2024, 03:23:47 PM
He just says all the same stuff I say that makes you call me a fucking jackass piece of shit, with none of the rage-spittle reaction.

No, he does not. Again with the lies. No one here believes that Calvin is the sanctimonious, self-serving, lying fraud that you are.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #133 on: October 01, 2024, 03:25:26 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on October 01, 2024, 03:19:22 PM
You also don't follow him around like an angry terrier screaming about what a piece of shit and liar he is for not agreeing with the judge's ruling.  You don't view his disagreement with the ruling as a lack of conscience, or attack him personally for it.

Probably a coincidence.

Probably because he also doesn’t come on here and have a complex like you either, Spark…
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #134 on: October 01, 2024, 03:26:58 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on October 01, 2024, 03:23:02 PM
Neither had been convicted of a crime when they were suspended.  You're trying to conflate the ultimate outcome of the case, which we did not know when we were discussing whether UI should be able to suspend him and the TRO was granted, with whether the AD should've had the right to suspend him from basketball.

If it was a violation of TSJ's civil rights to suspend him from basketball pre-conviction, then it was a violation of Pierre Pierce's civil rights when Iowa did it too, whether he was guilty or not.

At the time, Steve Alford was going after the victim and trying to get her to drop it. When he was unsuccessful, Iowa pretty much had their hands tied.

Again, not the same situation. Iowa, Pierre, Steve, and everyone else knew what the fuck was up. Steve was trying to strong arm the victim into dropping it, and bringing up Jesus and all kinds of crazy bullshit.

TSJ was in a bar supposedly fingering a chic and fucking her in the ass. Looking back on it, seems unlikely, but your hero the Douglas county DA pushed it, so therefore, TSJ needed to not play.
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