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Hey guys, I was wrong about something

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2024, 02:20:38 PM »
I've been BEGGING you to go find the evidence of your claim to prove me wrong, and you refuse to.  Go find a post or two where I operated without conscience regarding the TSJ case - should be extremely easy, since I'm such a lying piece of shit.  Something where I called him a rapist, or where I said he should be locked up, etc.  I'm all ears.

I think you and I both know the reason for your refusal, it's just funny to watch you try to keep up the charade.

Nice Tempo routine. You have said so much bullshit you cannot even remember it. I went through and read it. It was after the verdict you said there was not enough evidence to convict him.

You are a fraud. I repeated all the shit you were wrong about. You were wrong then. You are wrong now.  You are a disingenuous weasel who has no character. Talk about a charade. 
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2024, 02:22:33 PM »
After it was over, you lying asshole. Up to that point, you said he should not be allowed to play, the judge was an idiot, the DNA evidence would play no role in exonerating him, no one would participate in a Title IX investigation when criminal proceedings were pending, etc. Everything you were wrong about is in that thread.

You're lying about a number of my positions here, which I suppose you have to to keep up the act.

I said the university should have the right to choose who represents them, and if they don't want someone with a pending felony rape charge on the court that should be their prerogative - yes.  That was a unanimous opinion until it happened to OUR best player, which is surely just a coincidence and not that complete moral void I've been talking about.

I didn't say the judge was an idiot, but I've acknowledged a number of times I was shocked that she granted the TRO.  From what I saw, most people with even a layman's knowledge of the law were surprised by it.  I also said over and over it doesn't matter what I think, the judge's ruling is what mattered - once the ruling came down, I was fine with him playing (and in fact, it was the only possible choice).

I have no idea where you even got the third claim about me saying DNA evidence would play no role in exonerating him.  I took umbrage with the ridiculous slutshaming that stemmed from the pointed release of the DNA report, but said over and over in that thread that if the vaginal swab wasn't a match then it shouldn't even go to trial - it did, but they reached the correct verdict.

I said that no lawyer is going to present their client's evidence at some University OSCR panel, and no lawyer did.  They interviewed Shannon, and then they dropped the case as soon as the season was over because - who'da thunk it - they had none of the evidence they'd need to determine his guilt or innocence, nothing from the accuser, nothing from the police.  I said I thought it was a crazy precedent that he had to be determined to be guilty by a University panel before they could suspend him, because that panel would necessarily not have the evidence they'd need to make that determination - and then when they dropped the case for that exact, explicit reason you started ranting about how wrong I was for being exactly right.

Just lie after lie after lie.  But when your base-level point is a lie, you have to lie about the evidence too to pretend to win.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2024, 02:22:59 PM »
I really fucking love it when people say "oh go back and find where I said that. Provide evidence of me saying that." Knowing full well it's damn near impossible to search back and find old shit on here without spending an inordinate amount of time on it.

Like I always say. Do your own fucking research.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2024, 02:24:57 PM »


What's funny is how many times I said something in that thread, got hammered for it, and then watched calvin come in and say the same thing to crickets.  It's almost like you were reacting to the source, not the content!

Calvin will state his opinion or take with a lot of clarity. I don't recall him posting anything like this:

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That you are not intelligent enough to even understand what I was saying during the Shannon situation isn't really my problem. 
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2024, 02:25:51 PM »
Nice Tempo routine. You have said so much bullshit you cannot even remember it. I went through and read it. It was after the verdict you said there was not enough evidence to convict him.

You are a fraud. I repeated all the shit you were wrong about. You were wrong then. You are wrong now.  You are a disingenuous weasel who has no character. Talk about a charade.

No, it wasn't after the verdict.  You're lying.  I said I hadn't seen the evidence I'd need to vote to convict multiple times:

Here's one from May 2nd:
https://illinihq2.com/index.php/topic,1122.msg124946.html#msg124946

Here's one from May 17th:
https://illinihq2.com/index.php/topic,1122.msg125493.html#msg125493

He was acquitted on June 13th.

Just lies on lies on lies.  And I even have evidence, rather than "just pretend with me".

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2024, 02:27:01 PM »
Nichi just fucked Spark in the ass. Lol
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2024, 02:27:06 PM »
Calvin will state his opinion or take with a lot of clarity. I don't recall him posting anything like this:

You must've blocked out when he called the way you guys were acting "pitchfork carrying dipshittery", or when he called a tweet you all latched onto "Illini homerism masquerading as legal analysis", or when he called the way people here were acting about the accuser "fucking ridiculous".

You, in particular, vacillated wildly from "she made it all up" to "it was someone else and she misidentified him" and back again.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2024, 02:30:44 PM by spark mandrill »

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2024, 02:27:31 PM »
Nichi just fucked Spark in the ass. Lol

Very few people showed their ass more thoroughly during the TSJ situation than nichi.  On this particular board, only JJ and Custard that I remember.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2024, 02:28:37 PM »
I really fucking love it when people say "oh go back and find where I said that. Provide evidence of me saying that." Knowing full well it's damn near impossible to search back and find old shit on here without spending an inordinate amount of time on it.

Like I always say. Do your own fucking research.

I already did, and I know he's full of shit.  It took 10 minutes to read through the two threads about it.

I love how you're projecting that onto me - the person saying "if your claim is true there should be evidence, you should provide it" and not the person making a claim and refusing to provide evidence supporting it.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2024, 02:29:34 PM »
Very few people showed their ass more thoroughly during the TSJ situation than nichi.  On this particular board, only JJ and Custard that I remember.

Eh. Basically, TSJ got fucked, and you were there for it. That's pretty much what it boils down to. I'll admit, my first thought was that he fucked up. I have since learned to not jump to conclusions about shit like that.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2024, 02:29:36 PM »
Very few people showed their ass more thoroughly during the TSJ situation than nichi.  On this particular board, only JJ and Custard that I remember.

How dare you call me JJ! You don’t know me like that! Calling people things they don’t wanna be called! That’s not my name! How sensitive of you!
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2024, 02:30:39 PM »
I already did, and I know he's full of shit.  It took 10 minutes to read through the two threads about it.

I love how you're projecting that onto me - the person saying "if your claim is true there should be evidence, you should provide it" and not the person making a claim and refusing to provide evidence supporting it.

I'm not projecting shit. Was just making an observation. Tempo loves doing that kind of shit too.

You guys are butt buddies with regard to how you argue shit lol
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2024, 02:31:20 PM »
How dare you call me JJ! You don’t know me like that! Calling people things they don’t wanna be called! That’s not my name! How sensitive of you!

Yeah. Call him Judy, or Judge. You don't know him like that.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2024, 02:31:22 PM »
Eh. Basically, TSJ got fucked, and you were there for it. That's pretty much what it boils down to. I'll admit, my first thought was that he fucked up. I have since learned to not jump to conclusions about shit like that.

There for what?

I never once jumped to the conclusion that he was guilty, so sounds like maybe you were more 'there for it' than I was.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2024, 02:32:04 PM »
I'm not projecting shit. Was just making an observation. Tempo loves doing that kind of shit too.

You guys are butt buddies with regard to how you argue shit lol

Yes - we ask for evidence supporting claims, especially inflammatory personal claims about ourselves.

God, what a couple morons!