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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #270 on: August 22, 2024, 10:51:29 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on August 21, 2024, 10:25:35 PM
They have to try to appeal to people in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada. That's it.

With a National Popular vote, the candidates could go stump in Oregon, or Florida, or any of the 50 states, because everyone of those states, and every county in every one of those states, has persuadable voters, from a far larger set of backgrounds and living circumstances than those six states.

That's patently untrue
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #271 on: August 22, 2024, 10:52:06 AM »
Lot of fucking whining from the Board Progressives. Only want big cities to vote!
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #272 on: August 22, 2024, 11:23:56 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 22, 2024, 10:51:29 AM
That's patently untrue

Show your work
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #273 on: August 22, 2024, 12:34:01 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on August 22, 2024, 10:38:35 AM
A true conservative. Water down a good idea because "scary"

I am sure you know originally each state had one vote. The concept is that sovereign states choose the President.

Two at large electors with the rest determined by population was a compromise. The same with Congress. Two Senators and Representatives determined by population. I see a pattern.

Winner takes all distorted the Electoral College.

Same with primaries. Dems went to a form of proportional voting. Hillary won 55% of the popular vote, but it was still a close race.

Republicans used winner takes all. Trump won 45% of the popular vote, but won in a landslide.
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #274 on: August 22, 2024, 12:36:49 PM »
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #275 on: August 22, 2024, 12:49:26 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 22, 2024, 12:36:49 PM
See 2020 election.

I said "They have to try to appeal to people in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada. That's it."

No other state was close. *maybe* North Carolina if we are being charitable.

The only reason candidates come to California or New York is to raise funds from super wealthy donors. Happens here all the time "Today's ride through Portola Valley is moved from 10 AM to 8 AM due to (Trump/Biden/Harris) fundraiser somewhere on Los Trancos, roads will be shut down in the area from 11-2".

There *are* say, Trump field offices with a skeleton staff in places like Bakersfield, but they exist solely to try to get a bit of fundraising, sell swag, etc... Jobu himself says "his vote doesn't matter" - if you are in Bakersfield, which is a red district (Kevin McCarthy was the congressman) - it really doesn't matter if you vote. But if we had a National Popular Vote, maybe Trump holds a rally in Bakersfield because they expect they can win 70/30 there, and they want to juice turnout, because those votes are thrown into the big soup.
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #276 on: August 22, 2024, 12:53:32 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 22, 2024, 12:36:49 PM
See 2020 election.

Biden won 57 (by my quick count) electoral votes in those states by relatively thin margins. Without them, he loses.
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #277 on: August 23, 2024, 10:13:16 AM »
Quote from: LuvsTerrorists on August 22, 2024, 10:15:49 AM
JFC. I’ve been complaining about the system being corrupt for 30 years, not 3 months.

Wait, we were told it wasn’t when Trump had an issue…

Weird.
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #278 on: August 23, 2024, 10:48:16 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on August 23, 2024, 10:13:16 AM
Wait, we were told it wasn’t when Trump had an issue…

Weird.

JFC. I’m talking about money (billionaires, corporations) influencing elections, not “voter fraud.”
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #279 on: August 23, 2024, 12:08:25 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on August 23, 2024, 10:13:16 AM
Wait, we were told it wasn’t when Trump had an issue…

Weird.

It certainly was not an issue when the CTU bought the mayor position and a couple of alderman slots for the SDA candidates. Did not hear him complaining then. How is that working out?
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #280 on: August 23, 2024, 12:09:09 PM »
Quote from: LuvsTerrorists on August 23, 2024, 10:48:16 AM
JFC. I’m talking about money (billionaires, corporations) influencing elections, not “voter fraud.”

Narrator: Notably absent from the list, the Chicago Teachers Union....
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #281 on: August 23, 2024, 02:10:57 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 23, 2024, 12:09:09 PM
Narrator: Notably absent from the list, the Chicago Teachers Union....

You want Unions to unilaterally disarm?

Politics is (are?) a dirty hard ball game. It takes a lot of money to fight back against a lot of money.
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #282 on: August 23, 2024, 02:34:01 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 23, 2024, 12:08:25 PM
It certainly was not an issue when the CTU bought the mayor position and a couple of alderman slots for the SDA candidates. Did not hear him complaining then. How is that working out?

JFC. There are times you remind me of Jamie Lannister’s cousin. Kuh! Kuh! Kuh!
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #283 on: August 23, 2024, 02:34:57 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 23, 2024, 12:09:09 PM
Narrator: Notably absent from the list, the Chicago Teachers Union....

Kuh! Kuh! Kuh!
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Re: Tim Walz
« Reply #284 on: August 23, 2024, 05:15:37 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on August 23, 2024, 02:10:57 PM
You want Unions to unilaterally disarm?

Politics is (are?) a dirty hard ball game. It takes a lot of money to fight back against a lot of money.

Uh, no.. just calling out LuvsTerrorists on his hypocrisy
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