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WTF is going to happen in the next week?

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #180 on: December 14, 2020, 05:05:27 PM »
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #181 on: December 14, 2020, 05:09:11 PM »
How do you prove coordination, unless they admit it?
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #182 on: December 14, 2020, 05:48:42 PM »
How do you prove coordination, unless they admit it?
I just don't care. Either they fooled our dumbass populace, or our dumbass populace fooled themselves - does not change the fact we have a dumbass populace.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #183 on: December 14, 2020, 05:55:37 PM »
I *should* care about this, but my take is that in any sane reality, the efforts of the Russians would be meaningless - but somehow we have this large percentage of the population that has a bizarro cult worship of this extraordinarily mediocre person. How could it be possible that 70 million people would be persuaded by any argument? It beggars all belief, which is why we cling to guns, racism, abortion as the only plausible explanation for this disconnect.

So I just can't even get that freaked out by the Russia stuff because we have so many idiots we probably got the Government we deserve.

Also - "the Soviets"?

Yes, Putin is a fucking Soviet. You apparently have not been paying attention, or, like most progressives, selfishly don't give a rat's ass that "others" (aside from terrorists and Palesinians) are unable to enjoy the same freedoms we do.
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #184 on: December 14, 2020, 05:59:06 PM »
How do you prove coordination, unless they admit it?

Well, for starters, after 1/20/21 they will be able to question Trump directly, and, unless he pleads the Fifth, he will actually have to answer questions on his own instead of having his lawyers write them down for him. 
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #185 on: December 14, 2020, 06:00:58 PM »

We do not know Russia favored Trump.


Bullshit. The BILATERAL US Senate report found otherwise.

Mn, back on Putin's Troll Farm payroll!
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #186 on: December 14, 2020, 06:03:56 PM »
I just don't care. Either they fooled our dumbass populace, or our dumbass populace fooled themselves - does not change the fact we have a dumbass populace.

Example of why Dems lose elections.
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #187 on: December 15, 2020, 12:50:29 AM »
Example of why Dems lose elections.
Because we have a dumbass populace.

My Aunt, in the span of five minutes told me that the Chinese invented COVID, and that Exelon is closing Dresden Nuclear because of wind and solar (it's because of natural gas being so cheap from fracking). I pointed her to an article quoting the CEO of Exelon saying that they can't compete with the low cost of electricity from nat gas, and she said that the CEO is lying.

There is no way around pure stupidity. Reference - ILLove97

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #188 on: December 15, 2020, 10:12:13 AM »
Because we have a dumbass populace.

My Aunt, in the span of five minutes told me that the Chinese invented COVID, and that Exelon is closing Dresden Nuclear because of wind and solar (it's because of natural gas being so cheap from fracking). I pointed her to an article quoting the CEO of Exelon saying that they can't compete with the low cost of electricity from nat gas, and she said that the CEO is lying.

There is no way around pure stupidity. Reference - ILLove97

While I enjoyed the citation to ILLove, today I read a piece by Matt Yglesias (sp- Google it yourself Big10Man), about the blowback he got for going onto Joe Rogan's podcast. His point was that "shunning" or cancel culture, whatever you want to call it, does not help convince people their attitudes, etc. are wrong and, in essence, staying in your cocoon is not a good way to win elections.
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #189 on: December 15, 2020, 10:39:59 AM »
I thought the Amish were an earnest people. What could they possibly see in Don The Con?

I suppose we'd need to see the broadsheets they've been reading. Or perhaps Rupert Murdoch owns their Town Crier.

He said nice things about the Bible, and even held one up once.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #190 on: December 15, 2020, 10:42:11 AM »
Putin is a good guy. He told me he was, and I believe him.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #191 on: December 15, 2020, 12:07:05 PM »
While I enjoyed the citation to ILLove, today I read a piece by Matt Yglesias (sp- Google it yourself Big10Man), about the blowback he got for going onto Joe Rogan's podcast. His point was that "shunning" or cancel culture, whatever you want to call it, does not help convince people their attitudes, etc. are wrong and, in essence, staying in your cocoon is not a good way to win elections.

My theory is that it just doesn't matter, frankly. Steve Schmidt had a good piece on Amanpour the other day, where he basically said their goal at the Lincoln project was to use their methods, which were pretty damn harsh, to peel off the four percent of Trump supporting Republicans that they needed to win the election. He wasn't trying to convince anyone else in the other 96% of the Republican Party because it's just not possible.

There are still deep double digits of Trump voters who "still think he can pull this off!" If they haven't been able to put two and two together to understand that the Presidential election is *over* - they aren't going to understand nuances of policy no matter how nicely you frame it.

And despite Schmidt's efforts, even if he peeled off 4% of Republican voters, that didn't matter. Biden won because Democratic turnout was more massive than the massive Trump turnout. He constantly references Georgia and there's a pretty good argument to be made that if you took the Republicans who voted for Biden out of the equation, Trump wins. But Biden still wins without that.

Trump, FOX, Newsmax, and OAN have permanently scrambled too many brains. They just need to be outnumbered as best they can be, now, and really work on the youth to not fall into the trap while awaiting the passing of the scrambled.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #192 on: December 15, 2020, 03:02:33 PM »
You're right. We should just give up explaining positions and trying to use reasoning.
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #193 on: December 15, 2020, 03:57:03 PM »
You're right. We should just give up explaining positions and trying to use reasoning.

More so - if you have X amount of time and money, you get a much higher ROI for winning elections by driving up registration and turnout amongst people are are not crazy but also didn't vote.

That's what Abrams did and it worked. The people who tried to run to the middle and court Republicans, lost

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #194 on: December 15, 2020, 04:13:22 PM »
I think you nailed it.  Lincoln Project was able to poach a few to vote against Trump but it seems they all split their tickets.  That's what has Trump so riled up about Georgia.  He doesn't want the senators to have outscored him.