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WTF is going to happen in the next week?

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #150 on: November 11, 2020, 05:09:12 PM »
Keep dreaming!
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I watched both Hannity and Tucker last night (on an illegitimate stream, if course) and I understand why people in the Fox bubble don't know about day-to-day governance.

They both focused solely on Evil Democrats, whether it was stealing elections or merchandise (during riots).

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #152 on: November 11, 2020, 11:44:28 PM »
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They both focused solely on Evil Democrats, whether it was stealing elections or merchandise (during riots).

Are those not issues we should be concerned about?
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #153 on: November 11, 2020, 11:49:40 PM »
The GOP should be absolutely thrilled about the looting. It won them an election.

Of course, many of them also voted against the incumbent president, because he's an incompetent grifter who doesn't read his PDBs and spent his presidency golfing, watching TV and Tweeting.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #154 on: November 12, 2020, 06:54:03 AM »
Are those not issues we should be concerned about?

Those are the ONLY issues to be concerned about.
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #155 on: November 12, 2020, 01:40:17 PM »
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I watched both Hannity and Tucker last night (on an illegitimate stream, if course) and I understand why people in the Fox bubble don't know about day-to-day governance.

They both focused solely on Evil Democrats, whether it was stealing elections or merchandise (during riots).

Trump voters are flocking to a TV channel that claims Biden is not president-elect

“President Trump's fans who don't think Fox News is right-wing enough have another option on cable and satellite: Newsmax TV.”

“And something dramatic has happened in the past week: A big audience has sought out Newsmax TV for the first time.”

“On Newsmax, voter fraud innuendo is everywhere. Conspiracy theory chatter is constant. And perhaps most importantly, Joe Biden is not the president-elect. The channel is tapping into a real vein of rage on the right.  And Trump is encouraging it by retweeting Twitter users who are trashing Fox and promoting Newsmax.”
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/media/fox-news-newsmax-reliable-sources/index.html

Welcome, Fox, to the consequences of pandering to the lowest of the low.  Eventually someone significantly worse will come along.


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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #156 on: November 12, 2020, 02:51:45 PM »
Somebody forgot to send the national unity promo to CNN.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #157 on: November 18, 2020, 10:47:25 AM »
Trump Campaign Officials Started Pressuring Georgia’s Secretary of State Long Before the Election
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-campaign-officials-started-pressuring-georgias-secretary-of-state-long-before-the-election

Good to see Raffensperger is committed to running the secretary of state office with integrity and consistency.  He appears to have a great deal of testicular strength when it comes to dealing with the Trump racketeer approach to governance.


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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #158 on: November 18, 2020, 08:02:10 PM »
Trump Campaign Officials Started Pressuring Georgia’s Secretary of State Long Before the Election
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-campaign-officials-started-pressuring-georgias-secretary-of-state-long-before-the-election

Good to see Raffensperger is committed to running the secretary of state office with integrity and consistency.  He appears to have a great deal of testicular strength when it comes to dealing with the Trump racketeer approach to governance.

The best play for 2nd tier flunkies not completely stained by the current top of the GOP is to sternly scold the top for their blatant abuses, so they can become 1st tier flunkies in the "new GOP"

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #160 on: November 22, 2020, 04:34:54 PM »
I have been trying to decipher Trump and Giuliani's end game.  Keep in mind that half of Republicans think Trump was the victim of massive voter fraud, and more than 1/4 think he should fight to the end. Republican leaders with something to lose still fear him.   

Trump team's convoluted, disjointed legal arguments appear to be rooted in Bush v. Gore. The SCOTUS majority ruled that a lack of standard method for dimpled chads violated the equal protection clause.  The decision apparently included this sentence:  “Our consideration is limited to the present circumstances, for the problem of equal protection in election processes generally presents many complexities.”

In other words, they did not want it cited as a precedent, but I gather that is not stopping Giuliani et al.  They are evidently arguing that a lack of standard application of rules concerning ballot curing violates the equal protection clause. As a remedy, they wanted the court to nullify the entire vote in PA.

A Republican federal judge dismissed the case. Trump plans to appeal. Meanwhile, the Trump campaign has tried other tactics, like trying to block certification of the vote in other states, such as Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin. The idea is to drop Biden below the 270 threshold. Some say that would push the vote to the House; with each state getting one vote. Trump wins. Others say the threshold is lowered and Biden still wins.

Another approach is to try to get Republican state legislatures to override the popular vote in their states, and appoint Trump electors instead. My understanding is this is supposedly based on a "plenary power of the legislature" interpretation expressed by  Chief Justice Rehnquist's concurring opinion, which was  joined by Justices Scalia and Thomas.

Some ardent Trumpists believe  the 3 Trump appointees will join Alito and Thomas in throwing out fraudulent elections and allowing state legislatures to appoint Trump electors. While extremely unlikely, that is at least remotely possible and would create a nightmarish scenario.

It's also possible that Trump's absurd behavior finally exposes him for what he is; part oaf, part third world dictator, and he fades into obscurity. Well, there are the criminal cases in NY, so maybe at best he becomes am annoying side show?

Most likely, Trump sets himself as de facto leader of the Republican Party, a sort of True President in exile, and does everything he can to undermine the Biden Admin -- with a 2024 run in mind.  That is the most logical end game.   
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #161 on: November 22, 2020, 08:13:24 PM »
Interesting thoughts.  I quit paying attention some time ago, but I can’t shake the nightmarish feeling.
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #162 on: November 22, 2020, 10:32:48 PM »
I'll be disappointed if we don't get to see the Kraken.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #163 on: November 29, 2020, 05:40:24 PM »
Well, I guess more than 2 weeks have passed. Should there be a new, what now? thread?  There are a still few things to watch:

Trump: He is still babbling incoherently about and pouting about fraud. All they really have is affidavits from poll watchers who observed the process of ballot counting and misinterpreted what they saw.  Also, complaints about special covid-19 rules.   

Trump's lawyers: They appear to have given up on the fraud angle, and are challenging procedural shite instead.  They are claiming the procedures for mail-in ballots were so fucked up that either all mail-in ballots should be discarded or else the entire election in certain states with Republican legislatures should be voided. They may or may not have raised a valid equal protection issue. This dog is still not hunting due to a legal concept called laches. That means they waited too fucking long. The time to challenge the procedure of an election is before the election is held; not after it's over and you do not like the outcome.       

Pro-Trump Third Party legal action.

The Qanon nut job Sidney is still pushing a Dominion voting machine conspiracy. Ironically, Dominion bought out Diebold.

Others brought more valid claims. In Pennsylvania, some Republicans sued because the mail-in voting law violates the state's constitution. They are may well be right. They should have sued soon after the law was enacted, not after 2 elections had been held. The case has been dismissed -- that laches thing. 

Some conservative group is suing in Michigan, claiming the SoS exceeded her authority in various ways to make it easier to vote by mail. Again, even if the suit has merits, it is likely too late.
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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?
« Reply #164 on: December 02, 2020, 08:14:21 AM »
Just a reminder

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