WTF is going to happen in the next week?

murphstahoe

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2020, 04:56:05 PM »

Quote from: Jimmy Chitwood on November 04, 2020, 01:01:32 PM

Once again, you are completely wrong..as usual. People dont like stupid leftist ideas. GOP won big last night, regardless of what happens between Biden and Trump.

We found a clip of you

https://twitter.com/randyjcruz/status/1324103902556528646

Senators Hickenlooper and Kelly (Mark, not Loeffler) say hi

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murphstahoe

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2020, 04:57:31 PM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on November 04, 2020, 01:58:36 PM

Long overdue, but ain't going to happen:

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/524503-centrist-democrats-talk-leadership-changes-after-negative-election-results

“It’s time for Democrats to elevate a new generation of leadership in both the House and the Senate,” the lawmaker said. “Americans are clearly afraid of ‘socialism,’ want safe streets and neighborhoods and to vote for people who they believe will help put more money in their pockets. While Democratic policies can adequately address those issues, our messaging mechanism clearly cannot.”

*One thing missing from this is limiting illegal immigration in order to cause a reduction in the low-skilled labor market so as to drive real growth in wages from the bottom up.

Check that. Also missing is we are not going to take your legally purchased guns away and we are going to prosecute looters.

Indeed. This is why the Blue Dogs that won 2 years ago are romping, and AOC and Omar lost.

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ThePAMan

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #47 on: November 04, 2020, 05:05:46 PM »

Quote from: fucking on November 04, 2020, 03:33:32 PM

Gosh. Scrolling through 14 years of (mostly spam) emails containing the word "Pelosi" went faster than I thought.

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Nancy Pelosi can give her party a boost by declaring that she will not seek the Speakership.

Now may be the best time for the Democrats to persuade all voters, in all districts, in all states to vote for their candidates. But people in my neck of the woods, the "heartland" would be a lot more excited to vote for a party not led by one of the old school -- one of the members of the House that has been entrenched inside the beltway since the last time a ruling party got tossed out.

We've seen Ms. Pelosi on the Sunday chat shows too many times.

It's not that Ms. Pelosi strikes the average voter as being too far left -- which I gather she does. But more importantly, she comes off as a party shill. She seems more interested in promoting the party than promoting equitable concepts of governance.

Put more damningly, she is Tom DeLay in different clothes.

Right now there's a real chance to stop the madness in Washington. Ms. Pelosi can advance the greater cause by ceasing her personal quest for power.

Rob McColley
Urbana, Illinois

Nice...and accurate! Anything specifically posseses you to write this? Was it published?

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ThePAMan

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2020, 05:18:03 PM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on November 04, 2020, 04:57:31 PM

Indeed. This is why the Blue Dogs that won 2 years ago are romping, and AOC and Omar lost.

They are romping in part because of where they are. In case you have not noticed, yesterday was another indication that The Squad is not liked by bascially the rest of the country outside of, what, maybe 5-7 urban areas? If your goal is to basically squeak out electoral college victories, while losing House and Senate (and ergo the courts) seats and state legislatures (and district making), congrats, you are doing a bang up job.

I certainly was not getting texts asking to save Lauren Underwood's house seat. I was getting texts about donating money to take a Red House seat in California, beat Graham, and to vote for Pritzker's stupid tax amendment. Basically, the standard Dem dumbfuckery.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2020, 05:25:28 PM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on November 04, 2020, 05:05:46 PM

Nice...and accurate! Anything specifically posseses you to write this? Was it published?

Probably just a few beers. I don't think they ran it.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2020, 05:28:28 PM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on November 04, 2020, 04:56:05 PM

We found a clip of you

https://twitter.com/randyjcruz/status/1324103902556528646

Senators Hickenlooper and Kelly (Mark, not Loeffler) say hi

That guy had a bet with his buddies

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2020, 06:54:04 PM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on November 04, 2020, 05:18:03 PM

and to vote for Pritzker's stupid tax amendment. Basically, the standard Dem dumbfuckery.

I really don't get this one at all. All the arguments against it are back-asswards. "It will allow them to raise the taxes anytime they want!"

They can already do that, they just have to raise it on lower income people at the same rate as higher income people.
Frankly, you could pass this, and if you got some weirdo GOP legislature in place, you could set the top bracket to zero.

Do you consider the Federal income tax having tax brackets to be dumbfuckery?

There is this argument that companies would leave the state if this passed - but this is a personal income tax based legislation, not a corporate one. Well, the rich job creators would leave the state! We have a progressive income tax in the US as a whole, yet we also have the half the billionaires of the world. Because the US is a good place to make money and a good place to live. That's true of Illinois as well, no matter how much ILLove talks up Reno, it's a gritty cowtown with a big homeless problem and a bigger drug problem, with no Pro sports teams, mediocre dining and entertainment, and a very limited job base. And it's probably in the top 25% of interesting places to live nationwide - there's great outdoor recreation, the casinos do bring in some dining/entertainment outsized for the size of the town. Chicago is in the top 1%

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2020, 07:03:29 PM »

Wolfpack shade ...

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Miniditka

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2020, 07:58:26 PM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on November 04, 2020, 06:54:04 PM

I really don't get this one at all. All the arguments against it are back-asswards. "It will allow them to raise the taxes anytime they want!"

They can already do that, they just have to raise it on lower income people at the same rate as higher income people.

It depends on what you mean by “can.” They “can” in the sense that they have the power to do it, but I’m not sure they can raise taxes as high as they would like and continue to hold on to that power.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #54 on: November 04, 2020, 09:13:16 PM »

Quote from: Miniditka on November 04, 2020, 07:58:26 PM

It depends on what you mean by “can.” They “can” in the sense that they have the power to do it, but I’m not sure they can raise taxes as high as they would like and continue to hold on to that power.

For starters.

My personal objections to this were a) there was zero property tax relief proposed as part of this. Basically if you live in a high tax suburb that equates paying teachers exorbitant salaries (the average teacher makes 6 figures based on the "report card" that just came out) to now only teach half time remotely (instead of 8 classes oer day it is now 4), you are getting double fucked by this and b) the fucking Democrats did not say one god damned word about reinstating the SALT deduction. So, why would any sane person in Cook County who has a remotely decent job in a decent neighborhood (who are now getting even more fucked on property taxes under Kagi) vote for this?

If you told me that property taxes were going to be zapped because of this, fine. I'm all in. But most of us knew better.

Illinois would be a better place if Madigan, Don Harmon, and Pritzker all choked on each other's vomit.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #55 on: November 05, 2020, 01:10:59 AM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on November 04, 2020, 09:13:16 PM

For starters.

My personal objections to this were a) there was zero property tax relief proposed as part of this. Basically if you live in a high tax suburb that equates paying teachers exorbitant salaries (the average teacher makes 6 figures based on the "report card" that just came out) to now only teach half time remotely (instead of 8 classes oer day it is now 4), you are getting double fucked by this and b) the fucking Democrats did not say one god damned word about reinstating the SALT deduction. So, why would any sane person in Cook County who has a remotely decent job in a decent neighborhood (who are now getting even more fucked on property taxes under Kagi) vote for this?

If you told me that property taxes were going to be zapped because of this, fine. I'm all in. But most of us knew better.

Illinois would be a better place if Madigan, Don Harmon, and Pritzker all choked on each other's vomit.

If you think remote teaching is easier for teachers than in person, you might think Donald Trump is the least racist President ever

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #56 on: November 05, 2020, 08:17:33 AM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on November 05, 2020, 01:10:59 AM

If you think remote teaching is easier for teachers than in person, you might think Donald Trump is the least racist President ever

Yet CPS ihigh schools are doing remote learning and having EACH class EACH day. The bigotry of low expectations is strong with you. They had last spring and all fucking summer to get ready for this. It sucks and is robbing kids, especially those that are not high achievers and those who are low income without the necessary tech. But you are fine with it because the teachers union is happy their members are getting paid to do half the work.

No wonder the Dems basically got their asses kicked on Tuesday.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #57 on: November 05, 2020, 08:42:27 AM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on November 04, 2020, 09:13:16 PM

Illinois would be a better place if Madigan, Don Harmon, and Pritzker all choked on each other's vomit.

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #58 on: November 05, 2020, 09:12:53 AM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on November 04, 2020, 06:54:04 PM

I really don't get this one at all. All the arguments against it are back-asswards. "It will allow them to raise the taxes anytime they want!"

They can already do that, they just have to raise it on lower income people at the same rate as higher income people.
Frankly, you could pass this, and if you got some weirdo GOP legislature in place, you could set the top bracket to zero.

Do you consider the Federal income tax having tax brackets to be dumbfuckery?

There is this argument that companies would leave the state if this passed - but this is a personal income tax based legislation, not a corporate one. Well, the rich job creators would leave the state! We have a progressive income tax in the US as a whole, yet we also have the half the billionaires of the world. Because the US is a good place to make money and a good place to live. That's true of Illinois as well, no matter how much ILLove talks up Reno, it's a gritty cowtown with a big homeless problem and a bigger drug problem, with no Pro sports teams, mediocre dining and entertainment, and a very limited job base. And it's probably in the top 25% of interesting places to live nationwide - there's great outdoor recreation, the casinos do bring in some dining/entertainment outsized for the size of the town. Chicago is in the top 1%

how about everyone pays their share and feels the pain so they can maybe you know - hold the crony dipshit politicians accountable for their reckless spending habits?

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Re: WTF is going to happen in the next week?

« Reply #59 on: November 05, 2020, 11:55:19 AM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on November 05, 2020, 08:17:33 AM

Yet CPS ihigh schools are doing remote learning and having EACH class EACH day. The bigotry of low expectations is strong with you. They had last spring and all fucking summer to get ready for this. It sucks and is robbing kids, especially those that are not high achievers and those who are low income without the necessary tech. But you are fine with it because the teachers union is happy their members are getting paid to do half the work.

No wonder the Dems basically got their asses kicked on Tuesday.

Do you have kids? Are you being exposed to this?

The teachers I see are having to do 1-1 zoom sessions with kids and parents over and over, trying to figure out the algorithm for each kid to get them to make progress. In a room, the teachers have a fairly compact task. On Zoom, they are dealing with asking a kid who is looking directly at the camera a question, and that kid not answering because the kid has fired up Minecraft or is doing Google Hangouts. Homework slips, and they have to chase down kids to find out why. They have to deal with stressed out parents screaming at them or begging them to help them figure out how to crack the problem.

Eventually these kids will take MAP tests and when the scores suck, the teachers are going to have to defend how poorly things went in a pandemic.

Now imagine you are a special needs teacher.

I do not envy those teachers one bit. Their jobs are substantially harder now.

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