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The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD

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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #435 on: April 22, 2024, 03:12:13 PM »
So, Bradley guard Connor Hickman portaled to Indiana. His dream job, I'm sure.

Now, looks like Goode will be portaling to Indiana too. Looks like Hickman is fucked.

And Bradley's coach has been quite vocal about once his players enter the portal, they aren't coming back. So, this could be mildly interesting.
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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #436 on: April 22, 2024, 03:30:09 PM »
Goode was a significant recruit in the fact, that he came from Indiana, he bought in 100% imo, and he stayed and toughed things out.

Didn't care for his overall play, or his progression really, however I wish him nothing but the best...he is one of those guys you will see down the line running a company or being in the senate.
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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #437 on: April 22, 2024, 03:50:32 PM »
Goode was a significant recruit in the fact, that he came from Indiana, he bought in 100% imo, and he stayed and toughed things out.

Didn't care for his overall play, or his progression really, however I wish him nothing but the best...he is one of those guys you will see down the line running a company or being in the senate.

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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #438 on: April 22, 2024, 03:53:27 PM »
Kylan Boswell, David Jones, Marcus Damask, Morez Johnson, and Ugonna Onyenso.

DGL, Ty rogers, Booth, Tre White off the bench.

Davis is redshirting

Sounding like Hawkins might transfer.   We might also get Boogie Fland. 
« Last Edit: April 22, 2024, 03:56:33 PM by Jrock74 »

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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #439 on: April 22, 2024, 03:54:49 PM »
If we get that line up we will be a top 5 team.

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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #440 on: April 22, 2024, 03:56:26 PM »
Next couple of weeks, we should have at the minimum the following happen.

1) Pieces to fall into place from the portal (at least 1 B1G and 1 G-scorer type)
2) CoHawk announces that he will be back (Sat deadline for draft entry)
3) Domask to get his waiver to play one more year....will coincide with CoHawk announcing imo.

Then we all can start to imagine next years record, ranking, seedings, and overall GREAT things coming our way!!!
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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #441 on: April 22, 2024, 03:58:04 PM »
Kylan Boswell, David Jones, Marcus Damask, Morez Johnson, and Ugonna Onyenso.

DGL, Ty rogers, Booth, Tre White off the bench.

Davis is redshirting

Sounding like Hawkins might transfer.   We might also get Boogie Fland. 

Hawkins will stay with Domask imo, Marcus will have a say imo. Plus with OA coming back, not sure that won't help and also not sure that won't get us a better player than Oyenso....Still like Payne the best, although Aidoo from Tennesee or Gray from South Carolina, or Ausar from East Carolina wouldn't be bad either.
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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #442 on: April 22, 2024, 11:28:59 PM »
Goode was a solid shooter off the bench. You need a guy like that. If he wanted a starting spot he probably needed to go elsewhere but that's still a loss I'd rather not have. You can't have 10-12 roster spots turn over every year and expect to have a stable winning program.

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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #443 on: April 23, 2024, 01:01:33 AM »
Goode was a solid shooter off the bench. You need a guy like that. If he wanted a starting spot he probably needed to go elsewhere but that's still a loss I'd rather not have. You can't have 10-12 roster spots turn over every year and expect to have a stable winning program.

BU I think has this figured out, he went "old" to win and get to Elite Eight, now he is mixing the young in with the older portal guys (not Boswell), and eventually he will have many stay 1-3 years instead of jumping ship.

So far the portal has given us players with multiple years left and a freshman or two each year....5* guys (AJ Dybantsa) hopefully will contribute and make things stronger...it will take a few years to even back out though.

Imagine AJ, with Rez, Fears, and some transfers with multiple years!
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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #444 on: April 23, 2024, 04:17:31 AM »
Goode was a solid shooter off the bench. You need a guy like that. If he wanted a starting spot he probably needed to go elsewhere but that's still a loss I'd rather not have. You can't have 10-12 roster spots turn over every year and expect to have a stable winning program.

I think the large turnover of rosters every year is going to be the norm. This is the last COVID year so the 5 year guys will be flushed out of system finally but the transfers will still be very high. Will be interested to see the percentage of roster turnover when dust settles in about three years now that anyone can transfer every year with no penalty.

College basketball is now like kids jumping AAU teams every summer only there is big money being handed out at the P6 level.


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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #445 on: April 23, 2024, 08:17:50 AM »
I think the large turnover of rosters every year is going to be the norm. This is the last COVID year so the 5 year guys will be flushed out of system finally but the transfers will still be very high. Will be interested to see the percentage of roster turnover when dust settles in about three years now that anyone can transfer every year with no penalty.

College basketball is now like kids jumping AAU teams every summer only there is big money being handed out at the P6 level.
I get it on the individual level - it doesn't make sense to stay at a mid-major if you're averaging 15/game and a place like Mizzou will pay you - but from the coaching/investment side if you look at the teams that did really well this past year, they almost without exception had a core of guys who'd been there multiple years. We hit a home run in the portal last year but 5/8 of our rotation were returners including the two best players. We're not going to have that next year barring Domask and Hawkins both coming back. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out over time. My guess is that two years from now people will realize that the transfer market is not a great place to rebuild the core of your basketball team, or vice-versa on the players end that the grass sometimes really isn't greener.

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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #446 on: April 23, 2024, 11:58:02 AM »
Kentucky center Ugonna Onyenso has entered the transfer portal.

https://247sports.com/season/2024-basketball/transferportal/

He is not draft caliber imo, he did declare...look for him to join us, elite defense, I think his best attribute is his blocks that he keeps in play. Nearly all seem to be light blocks and turn into offense, not out of bounds plays.

If we can land Onyenso and maybe say Oweh (poor mans TSJ as far as driving to basket) we will have 2 very very good defenders to add to the mix of offense we have coming in. Kamari Lands is an intriguing option as well....DO NOT bring back RJ Melendez....or will we?
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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #447 on: April 23, 2024, 01:36:01 PM »
I get it on the individual level - it doesn't make sense to stay at a mid-major if you're averaging 15/game and a place like Mizzou will pay you - but from the coaching/investment side if you look at the teams that did really well this past year, they almost without exception had a core of guys who'd been there multiple years. We hit a home run in the portal last year but 5/8 of our rotation were returners including the two best players. We're not going to have that next year barring Domask and Hawkins both coming back. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out over time. My guess is that two years from now people will realize that the transfer market is not a great place to rebuild the core of your basketball team, or vice-versa on the players end that the grass sometimes really isn't greener.

I don't really agree, although it seems somewhat like the staff does - all four of our current transfer gets have multiple years of eligibility I think.  The problem with that obviously is that these days you have to re-recruit them every year.    I think what's winning games is having guys who have played a ton of college basketball already, regardless of whether most of it was together 'as a unit' or not.

The days of getting young guys and developing them so that by the time they're old they're really good are just past.  Pretty much every team that made a deep run other than Purdue and to a lesser degree Tennessee did so with a large percentage of transfers.

UConn's top two scorers (and 3 of their top-6) were transfers in, one of which was in their first year with the team.
Alabama's top three (and 5 of their top-6) were transfers in, including 3 in their first year with the team.
NC State's top seven were transfers in, including 5 in their first year with the team.


For a non F4 team, Illinois' top two (and 5 of their top-8) were transfers in, including 3 in their first year with the team.






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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #448 on: April 23, 2024, 03:21:30 PM »
The biggest challenge each year is going to be making sure the players you get buy-in and have good chemistry together. That’s the vital part. Getting players that are about the team and not themselves. Getting that part to gel every year will be key.
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Re: The Never too Early 2024-2025 PORTAL THREAD
« Reply #449 on: April 23, 2024, 09:22:40 PM »
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