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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #825 on: April 08, 2024, 12:19:08 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 06, 2024, 03:09:46 PM
According to everyone with an opinion, Justin Fields’ work ethic wasn’t a problem. I don’t expect him to be elbow deep in the playbook every waking hour. According to everyone with knowledge he put in the work.

Meanwhile, regarding Caleb,  making sure the franchise he’s in line to LEAD gets his medicals was literally his only pressing obligation. But he couldn’t be bothered until he was ready.

Before the draft Fields’ work ethic was questioned publicly.  I don’t know that that was particularly fair, but it happened.  He also was called out publicly (by someone who has the means to know) for not being a great teammate as a rookie sitting behind two older guys when he thought he should be playing.  Again, maybe not fair, but it happened.

It’s funny how much your views on that sort of thing has shifted.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #826 on: April 08, 2024, 12:35:38 PM »
Seems like Tempo is in the minority on this one. Hoge, the people on The RedDit and The Twitter, HQ2, all over Tempo's bad takes.

Tempo needs to post a video responding to Hoge and Hoge's accolytes.
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Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #827 on: April 08, 2024, 12:38:35 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 08, 2024, 12:35:38 PM
Seems like Tempo is in the minority on this one. Hoge, the people on The RedDit and The Twitter, HQ2, all over Tempo's bad takes.

Tempo needs to post a video responding to Hoge and Hoge's accolytes.

Profusely sweating and in a squeaky voice preferably!!! 😂
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #828 on: April 08, 2024, 12:41:44 PM »
I’m actually curious Tempo did you get a bunch of new followers from the Reddit post and the Hoge video?
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #829 on: April 08, 2024, 12:45:16 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 06, 2024, 10:24:17 AM
That is pretty funny. He also sounds like Spark hugging Caleb’s nuts and protecting him from all would be criticism. Also easy to sit there and rip someone who doesn’t even know he’s being ripped (and doesn’t have a chance to respond). That is classic though. Not surprised Mn is the one who found it.

Hadn’t even noticed the super transparent “spark hugging Caleb’s nuts” deflection here.  Good work.

One thing you won’t see me doing is deflecting blame off him for years if he plays poorly.  I will never treat him like you treated Fields, because that was weird and cultish shit.  If he is as mediocre as Fields is, you can bet I will acknowledge it and not die on the “it was actually everyone else around him’s fault” hill.

I don’t expect him to be a finished product from snap one like you will almost definitely do, but if his first few seasons are Fields level mediocre I will absolutely want to move on.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #830 on: April 08, 2024, 12:50:14 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 08, 2024, 12:45:16 PM
Hadn’t even noticed the super transparent “spark hugging Caleb’s nuts” deflection here.  Good work.

One thing you won’t see me doing is deflecting blame off him for years if he plays poorly.  I will never treat him like you treated Fields, because that was weird and cultish shit.  If he is as mediocre as Fields is, you can bet I will acknowledge it and not die on the “it was actually everyone else around him’s fault” hill.

I don’t expect him to be a finished product from snap one like you will almost definitely do, but if his first few seasons are Fields level mediocre I will absolutely want to move on.

For whatever reason Tempo does not appear to understand that we are not as invested in Williams as he is in being right about Fields.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #831 on: April 08, 2024, 12:59:07 PM »
One thing I find funny is that he intentionally misrepresented my argument for literally years to pretend I was half as dug in on Trubisky as he was on Fields.

End of the day, we all want the Bears to be good.  If a guy plays well for the Bears I will want him to stay.  If he doesn’t, I will want to move on.  The only allegiance is to the Bears having a good quarterback finally.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #832 on: April 08, 2024, 01:03:16 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 08, 2024, 12:59:07 PM
One thing I find funny is that he intentionally misrepresented my argument for literally years to pretend I was half as dug in on Trubisky as he was on Fields.

End of the day, we all want the Bears to be good.  If a guy plays well for the Bears I will want him to stay.  If he doesn’t, I will want to move on.  The only allegiance is to the Bears having a good quarterback finally.

Are you sure Tempo wants the Bear to be good with Williams?
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #833 on: April 08, 2024, 01:07:36 PM »
Mostly yes I think if he is good Tempo will be onboard.

But he’s made it really clear there’s a part of him who will relish mocking anyone who didn’t think the golf tournament thing or his car or that one social media video or any of the other couple dozen stretchy criticisms he’s brought up in the last 6 months was a huge deal if he doesn’t play well.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #834 on: April 08, 2024, 01:08:43 PM »
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"Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock."  gt!!

Holy fucking shit. I just saw this. That is so fucking amazing.

The Bears failed Wayne Whitlock. God damn, I love Adam Hoge.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #835 on: April 08, 2024, 01:11:51 PM »
I know he’s really defensive about it right now but i hope in a couple years Caleb is really good and we can stop this stupid shit and Tempo can laugh about that video, because it’s pretty funny
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #836 on: April 08, 2024, 01:13:09 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 08, 2024, 01:11:51 PM
I know he’s really defensive about it right now but i hope in a couple years Caleb is really good and we can stop this stupid shit and Tempo can laugh about that video, because it’s pretty funny

I don't give a fuck if he laughs about it or not. It's fucking awesome.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #837 on: April 08, 2024, 01:17:32 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 08, 2024, 12:11:08 PM
I also find the golf tournament thing hilarious and extremely on brand to the sudden (and completely expected) 180 in standards you expect from the Bears’ presumptive QB.

Hopefully you can at least acknowledge that you defended Fields’ mediocre play for years and now have spent the entirety of this past season and offseason searching for any tiny thing to criticize Caleb Williams for.

Not a single one of these things matters.  What matters is whether he wins games and plays well.

Dude had a reasonably competent team around him for basically 7 games (and still has never been coached well) and it’s “for years” I’ve been defending his “medicore play.” Which sometimes wasn’t mediocre.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #838 on: April 08, 2024, 01:18:09 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on April 08, 2024, 01:08:43 PM
Holy fucking shit. I just saw this. That is so fucking amazing.

The Bears failed Wayne Whitlock. God damn, I love Adam Hoge.

Of course you’d love it.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #839 on: April 08, 2024, 01:19:57 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 08, 2024, 12:45:16 PM
Hadn’t even noticed the super transparent “spark hugging Caleb’s nuts” deflection here.  Good work.

One thing you won’t see me doing is deflecting blame off him for years if he plays poorly.  I will never treat him like you treated Fields, because that was weird and cultish shit.  If he is as mediocre as Fields is, you can bet I will acknowledge it and not die on the “it was actually everyone else around him’s fault” hill.

I don’t expect him to be a finished product from snap one like you will almost definitely do, but if his first few seasons are Fields level mediocre I will absolutely want to move on.

One season ago Fields had an entirely unacceptable supporting cast and a rookie OC in over his head in his first full season as a starter and “he was mediocre FOR YEARS.”
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