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Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?

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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #45 on: December 30, 2023, 02:59:51 PM »
I love how you think mocking me for giving a shit about people says something bad about me.

If the shit you want to make fun of me for here is “got sad when he thought his friend died only to be angry when he found out it was a ‘joke’”, go right ahead.  Pathetic even for you, and that’s a low bar these days.  Not sure, honestly, what happened to you.

That an anonymous message poster is a "friend" says volumes.
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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #46 on: December 30, 2023, 03:02:22 PM »
Like - yes.

And that you think it speaks negatively - same.

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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #47 on: December 30, 2023, 03:02:42 PM »
I love how you think mocking me for giving a shit about people says something bad about me.

If the shit you want to make fun of me for here is “got sad when he thought his friend died only to be angry when he found out it was a ‘joke’”, go right ahead.  Pathetic even for you, and that’s a low bar these days.  Not sure, honestly, what happened to you.

Yeah, that’s a poor choice of mocking material.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2023, 03:03:34 PM »
That an anonymous message poster is a "friend" says volumes.

You wouldn’t be a bit sad if me, Spark, or Mn died?
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #49 on: December 30, 2023, 03:05:50 PM »
Well Cops are not going to divulge any details during an investigation to any outside party, much less Whitman. That can interfere with their investigation. They didn’t want to spook Terence otherwise it’s possible Terence shuts up, disposes of evidence, etc.

I maintain that if it was an IL student making the allegations,he’d have been suspended immediately.  Since it was outside the U of I’s jurisdiction so to speak, and Kansas police weren’t going to divulge any details while working the case, that they let him play and promoted him in the media.

I don’t think U of I would ever suspend a player before a formal charge was brought unless the allegation was from another U of I student, bc in that case it’d be a student v student discipline matter

Guenther Jr said his process is designed to handle where there are allegations even before a criminal charge is filed.

True that the Lawrence cops don't have to say squat. But there are things they could have done to try and figure out if the investigation was closed or not. It is apparent they did not do anything but assume, given the passage of time, that the investigation was closed. He admitted not knowing anything about the complaint being filed until someone saw it on social media. They were caught with their pants down when the face of the program got charged with a sex crime.
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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #50 on: December 30, 2023, 03:07:37 PM »
A dude who thinks calling Whitman “Guenther Jr” is a great joke is obviously never going to have a reasonable take on this.

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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #51 on: December 30, 2023, 03:08:48 PM »
You wouldn’t be a bit sad if me, Spark, or Mn died?

I text with you. Sure.

I've had lunch with MN. Sure.

I do not know Spark.

I doubt Mn or you would do a bit where your "kid" came on and started posting like Jobu did.
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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #52 on: December 30, 2023, 03:10:07 PM »
A dude who thinks calling Whitman “Guenther Jr” is a great joke is obviously never going to have a reasonable take on this.

He had no clue what was going on with a criminal investigation into a player. Your top player. The face of your program. Yeah, he did a bang up job here.
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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #53 on: December 30, 2023, 03:16:31 PM »
I don’t blame Whitman one bit in this. He has handled this extraordinarily well so far in my opinion. As a matter of fact I’ll say the same for Underwood. Those two, listening to them, understand the bigger picture. Kudos to both of them…
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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #54 on: December 30, 2023, 03:17:47 PM »
I don’t blame Whitman one bit in this. He has handled this extraordinarily well so far in my opinion. As a matter of fact I’ll say the same for Underwood. Those two, listening to them, understand the bigger picture. Kudos to both of them…

I have a feeling we may find out how well they handled this....
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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #55 on: December 30, 2023, 03:22:17 PM »
I have a feeling we may find out how well they handled this....

I’ll give you that it’s far from over and a lot to be determined, but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt so far and props for this far in the process.
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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #56 on: December 30, 2023, 03:25:01 PM »
I’ll give you that it’s far from over and a lot to be determined, but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt so far and props for this far in the process.

That's fair enough I guess.

I just don't understand how you knew something was up in late September and then you are surprised in December when a complaint is filed. Just saying our cops couldn't get info out of their cops and being done with it appears to have been very shortsighted 
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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #57 on: December 30, 2023, 03:27:56 PM »
That's fair enough I guess.

I just don't understand how you knew something was up in late September and then you are surprised in December when a complaint is filed. Just saying our cops couldn't get info out of their cops and being done with it appears to have been very shortsighted

On the flip side, how do you suspend a player when you don’t even know there’s anything been done wrong?? Even the cops hadn’t been willing at that time to do anything about it, and you’re three states away…

Anytime a kid has sex you have something to be concerned about and who is to say this isn’t any different than any other thing in their lives at that age…
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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #58 on: December 30, 2023, 03:37:14 PM »
On the flip side, how do you suspend a player when you don’t even know there’s anything been done wrong?? Even the cops hadn’t been willing at that time to do anything about it, and you’re three states away…

Anytime a kid has sex you have something to be concerned about and who is to say this isn’t any different than any other thing in their lives at that age…

For one, the process described in the press conference only required an allegation to get the process rolling. It sounded like they knew it involved inappropriate touching, but not much else. Understandable that they lacked info on specifics.

The issue is they had zero clue the investigation had been proceeding this whole time or that there was a chance charges were going to be filed. They just assumed it was done since they had heard nothing. Did they even try and keep tabs on what was going on? Doesn't sound like it since they were just as surprised as any of us.
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Re: Will Whitman and Underwood Be Fired?
« Reply #59 on: December 30, 2023, 03:55:43 PM »
I guess I’ll repeat myself - you watched the presser, you know Whitman said they reached out multiple times to find out what was up and heard nothing.

So unless Whitman was just lying, yes, they tried to keep tabs on what was going on.  Surely that’ll stop you from acting like a dumbass about it!