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TSJ suspended charged with rape

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #300 on: January 08, 2024, 11:41:32 PM »
Or one year under Beckman
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #301 on: January 09, 2024, 06:33:50 AM »
I kind of like that they did this if his version is anywhere near the truth, but I'd be really surprised if a court granted this. I'm not sure local state courts can order universities to keep a kid on a sports team, and the Kansas court could just alter his bail conditions and it'd be moot fairly quickly.

Again I'd caution people that things like an internet search by the victim read great to people who believe one set of facts and poorlly when framed by someone making a different base assumption.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #302 on: January 09, 2024, 07:25:26 AM »
As a silver lining, if this ordeal radicalizes the Illini basketball fanbase as to certain wildly unjust aspects of the criminal justice system, it'll at least have served a useful purpose.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #303 on: January 09, 2024, 11:54:53 AM »
Really hard to evaluate anything from where we sit.
Will just have to see how it plays out.
Not making any assumptions about a DA being corrupt or unethical and manufacturing charges in a case they full well knew would get national scrutiny.
Nor am I making assumptions about a predatory minded victim.
And, of course, not making assumptions about TSj guilt as defined by the law.

I do agree, he likely is done at Illinois.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #304 on: January 09, 2024, 02:58:41 PM »
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #305 on: January 09, 2024, 03:50:44 PM »
That's a great letter and all. But it doesn't say what happened just that he's innocent.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #306 on: January 09, 2024, 03:59:21 PM »
And he shouldn't say what happened.
It's an open criminal case.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #307 on: January 09, 2024, 04:01:26 PM »
" The harm that I will suffer from an immediate suspension can never be undone, and I will never have this opportunity to further my collegiate career or fulfill my lifelong dream to play in the NBA."

Very much not true and to the extent he loses money by not being a lottery pick, his grievance should be with the NBA's collusive collective bargaining agreement and to a lesser extent the victim and the State of Kansas. I fully encourage him to fight the system, but UIUC is his friend, not his enemy, and its hands are tied.

I have concerns about the advice he's getting if they advised him this was a good idea. He needs to keep his ass out of jail before he talks about the lottery.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #308 on: January 09, 2024, 04:13:01 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on January 09, 2024, 04:01:26 PM
" The harm that I will suffer from an immediate suspension can never be undone, and I will never have this opportunity to further my collegiate career or fulfill my lifelong dream to play in the NBA."

Very much not true and to the extent he loses money by not being a lottery pick, his grievance should be with the NBA's collusive collective bargaining agreement and to a lesser extent the victim and the State of Kansas. I fully encourage him to fight the system, but UIUC is his friend, not his enemy, and its hands are tied.

I have concerns about the advice he's getting if they advised him this was a good idea. He needs to keep his ass out of jail before he talks about the lottery.

UIUC could let him play if it wanted to. Understandable why the panel decided the way it did. Have not seen the complaint but complaints about disciplinary actions by universities and colleges are hard to win. Lawyer undoubtedly knows this. Seen claims his lawyer is very close with the DIA and represented UIUC coaches in the past.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #309 on: January 09, 2024, 04:46:06 PM »
Do normal people stop working at their jobs when under a criminal investigation?  Usually not.  I could see this going to the supreme court to determine whether or not college athletes are employees.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #310 on: January 09, 2024, 04:48:51 PM »
If I was charged with felony rape I'm pretty confident I'd be fired.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #311 on: January 09, 2024, 04:49:30 PM »
I’d imagine they’re working to some degree with Josh Whitman. I doubt they’d be beating the drum this hard if they thought there was any way being jailed was a real possibility. 

As to being let go for being charged with rape, I suppose it depends on what industry and role. And past character and behavior would be taken into account in many of them. Seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen if someone lost a good job over a charge if they ended up being innocent unless the company had a specific employment policy that accounts for it. I think in sensitive situations like that people would be put on leave until things shook out. Especially employees that are hard to replace or specialized etc.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #312 on: January 09, 2024, 05:11:25 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on January 09, 2024, 04:46:06 PM
Do normal people stop working at their jobs when under a criminal investigation?  Usually not.

Not sure how they do things in Nevada....
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #313 on: January 09, 2024, 05:29:00 PM »
What is the reference to another year of eligibility????

"I believe that I might have one more year of NCAA eligibility, but given what I think is my current draft position (if I'm permitted to play again), now is the time to graduate, go pro, and make my family and university proud in the NBA".
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #314 on: January 09, 2024, 07:21:01 PM »
Now goes to federal court. Judge Coleen Lawless. Decision friday on the tro?
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