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TSJ suspended charged with rape

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #90 on: December 29, 2023, 09:07:40 AM »
First bet I lost, I said Kendrick Nunn wouldn’t come to Illinois.  He does, but gets charged with a felony and kicked off the team.

The only other bet I’ve ever lost, I said Terrence Shannon Jr would not come back for his last season.  He does, but gets charged with a felony and kicked off the team.

Even when I’m wrong, I’m right.  Sucks to be you sparky!

Nah, just wrong as always.  Time to go.  Only a huge pussy wouldn’t be a man of his word.

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #91 on: December 29, 2023, 09:15:14 AM »
Bragging about being wrong at 117 am in response to a rape charge, as winners do.

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #92 on: December 29, 2023, 09:19:05 AM »
Bragging about being wrong at 117 am in response to a rape charge, as winners do.

As literally always,  “I was objectively wrong but if you just pretend with me, then I can be right”.

Every single time.

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #93 on: December 29, 2023, 09:53:24 AM »
I believe that the following could apply and DA will have final say in which to proceed or not, in this case will be prosecuted on some level, after taking 3 months to bring charges.

21-5503. Rape. (a) Rape is:

(1) Knowingly engaging in sexual intercourse with a victim who does not consent to the sexual intercourse under any of the following circumstances:

(2) Knowingly engaging in sexual intercourse with a victim when the victim is incapable of giving consent because of mental deficiency or disease, or when the victim is incapable of giving consent because of the effect of any alcoholic liquor, narcotic, drug or other substance, which condition was known by the offender or was reasonably apparent to the offender; (bar encounter would apply obviously, alcohol can be the key to non consent being claimed and obviously both parties were in the bar and presumed to be drinking).

(3) Establishment will also be looked at based on Kansas law being, Under Kansas law, minors are allowed to consume alcohol if it is provided by a parent or legal guardian in their private residence and the guardian supervises. The alcohol must be a cereal malt beverage, which is defined as any fermented but undistilled liquor brewed or made from malt or from a mixture of malt or malt substitute, but not including any such liquor which is more than 3.2 percent alcohol by volume.

Alleged victim is over 16, under 21, and in bar according to reports, common sense seems to state if "she" was in a alcohol serving establishment and also using that as a reason to make the claims the DA is proceeding with, then she was drinking and she/the establishment are involved in that manner.

I am not saying this justifies the issue at hand, just that it will be involved in the final outcome/proceedings.

TSJ is being accused of a serious crime, the Kansas law is very subjective to say the least in regards to what would constitute the actual charge at hand, and TSJ being his age should have known better than to be involved in a bar situation, if that is in fact what occurred. I would venture to guess that any 23 year old kid would not know that ANY alcohol involved (1 drink) ANY could place them within violation of this law if one was to accuse them of this claim, which is exactly what is going on.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2023, 10:14:16 AM by ILLINICHIEF »
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #94 on: December 29, 2023, 10:05:59 AM »
From the Kansas Office of Revisor of Statutes ...
https://ksrevisor.org/statutes/chapters/ch21/021_055_0003.html

21-5503. Rape. (a) Rape is:

(1) Knowingly engaging in sexual intercourse with a victim who does not consent to the sexual intercourse under any of the following circumstances:

(A) When the victim is overcome by force or fear; or
(B) when the victim is unconscious or physically powerless;

(2) Knowingly engaging in sexual intercourse with a victim when the victim is incapable of giving consent because of mental deficiency or disease, or when the victim is incapable of giving consent because of the effect of any alcoholic liquor, narcotic, drug or other substance, which condition was known by the offender or was reasonably apparent to the offender;

The charge listed is a violation of 5503 a(1)(A) and lists the force or fear aspect. The charge does not specify an a(1)(B) violation.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2023, 10:08:47 AM by Mn »

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #95 on: December 29, 2023, 10:20:22 AM »

The charge listed is a violation of 5503 a(1)(A) and lists the force or fear aspect. The charge does not specify an a(1)(B) violation.

Correct the substantial charge is in violation of the one we referenced, the coercion of victim with or without alcohol can be applied to the lesser of charges. The class 1 sexual battery KSA21-5505 does involve this.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #96 on: December 29, 2023, 11:46:28 AM »
The misdemeanor sexual battery charge is a KSA 21-5505(a) & (c)(1).

From what I read the charge would have to be Aggravated Sexual Battery, 5505(b) & (3), for an alcohol violation and then would be a felony.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2023, 11:48:51 AM by Mn »

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #97 on: December 29, 2023, 12:23:16 PM »
If I want to know anything about the Kansas rape statutes,  I now know HQ2 is the place to go.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #98 on: December 29, 2023, 12:34:27 PM »
If I want to know anything about the Kansas rape statutes,  I now know HQ2 is the place to go.

Quite the brain trust we have here
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #99 on: December 29, 2023, 12:54:53 PM »
First bet I lost, I said Kendrick Nunn wouldn’t come to Illinois.  He does, but gets charged with a felony and kicked off the team.

The only other bet I’ve ever lost, I said Terrence Shannon Jr would not come back for his last season.  He does, but gets charged with a felony and kicked off the team.

Even when I’m wrong, I’m right.  Sucks to be you sparky!

You were wrong on Nunn. You were wrong about Shannon. You were wrong about last year's 14 win prediction. All you do is take L's. Fuck off.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #100 on: December 29, 2023, 02:00:11 PM »
If I want to know anything about the Kansas rape statutes,  I now know HQ2 is the place to go.
Quite the brain trust we have here
HQ2 has a long history as a valuable source for the information, both right and wrong, that we need.

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #101 on: December 29, 2023, 02:11:14 PM »
via Illinoisloyalty, someone found a *insider* post (connected to Kansas Law Enforcement) from another source:

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I live about 30 minutes Southeast of Lawrence and my wife, a KU alum, has multiple family members who work in Douglas County Law Enforcement. Here's some details:

1. The chick alleging the rape and intercourse without consent was NOT a KU student. Kind of a fascinating side note to this story and similar stories out of Lawrence involving student-athletes. The "victims" are almost always young minority women from Kansas City, Kansas or Topeka. The hot blonde KU sorority chicks from Leawood aren't the women levying out assault accusations at student-athletes. Interestingly enough, when a KU student-athlete also gets some woman pregnant, it is almost 100% someone in this crowd.


2. I've heard the Douglas County DA was initially hesitant about filing charges over credibility concerns regarding the allegations and the victim. And if you know anything about Susan Valdez, she usually jumps all over any type of rape case. The discussion among the local law enforcement is this victim wanted a relationship or something more from Shannon, and when he ghosted her, she started hurling allegations. he also apologized via electronic communication which could be considered an admission of guilt and that's why the DA decided to follow through with the charges.

I feel like Shannon and maybe even the Illini's 2023-24 season is likely shot. But, I do believe he will be ok in the future. I don't think this case will ever go to trial, and I absolutely believe he will never be convicted.

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I knew it, some 18yo bimbo (non KU student) targeting athlete

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That fool Tiger Woods had a rolodex with 26-odd high-pricedhookers, finally got caught. His blonde Swedish wife threw a fit, attacked him with golf clubs. He drove off, hit a tree. He had some relationship with a waitress at the local restaurant

That Rick Pitino got exposed for similar type of action at a restaurant:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/sport/rick-pitino-scandal-history/index.html

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Federal extortion case

In 2010, Pitino testified that he was a victim in a federal extortion case involving a woman who attempted to blackmail him after an affair.

Pitino, who is married, testified in court that he had sex with Karen Wise once at a Louisville restaurant in 2003. Weeks later, she called Pitino to say she was pregnant, according to court records. Pitino testified that he gave her $3,000, which she used to get an abortion.

The woman later married Tim Sypher, who was the equipment manager for Louisville and a former personal assistant to Pitino.

In February 2009, a friend of Karen Sypher’s left three voicemails for Pitino threatening that press reports could surface claiming that Pitino raped Sypher. Pitino denied the rape charge.

According to an affidavit, Sypher met with Pitino and wrote out a list of demands, including college tuition for her children, two cars and paying off her mortgage in exchange for her silence.

A criminal complaint against Sypher accused her of trying to extort Pitino, and she was found guilty in 2010 of several counts of extortion and lying to investigators and sentenced to seven years in prison.

^^^

I do believe TSJ got sucked into some "honey pot" scheme by this 18yo

Trevor Bauer (LA Dodgers pitcher, 38 million $$ contract) got SUCKED into an extortion scheme by a gold-digger:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trevor-bauer-accuser-b2425434.html

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The woman who accused former Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer of sexual assault has spoken out after he broke his silence to address the saga earlier this week.

Mr Bauer posted a video about the allegations after reaching a settlement agreement with Lindsey Hill. The pair had filed lawsuits against each other after prosecutors declined to bring charges against Mr Bauer. No money changed hands in the settlement.

In the social media video, the former Dodger read texts from Ms Hill, seemingly painting her claims as a method for her to get money from him.

“‘Next victim. Star pitcher for the Dodgers,’” Mr Bauer said, allegedly quoting his accuser. “A text Lindsey Hill sent to a friend before she ever even met me. ‘What should I steal?’ she asked another, in reference to visiting my house for the first time. The answer? ‘Take his money.’”

Ms Hill responded to his video in an interview on “Prime Time with Alex Stein,” where the host asked her to explain the messages, saying, “Those texts are bad though, Lindsey.”

Ms Hill conceded that “victim” was not the best choice of word to use. She said she used the term jokingly, as she has “been involved with other baseball players”.

She continued, “That was my world at the time and I had already dated baseball players and it was a funny, sarcastic way to say, ‘Here’s the next one I’m going to try to get attention from,’ and it was a lot of ego and attention-seeking behaviour, which is what I can own and what he can’t do is own any part. I can totally own the attention-seeking behaviour but these texts in the grand scheme don’t address what happened at all. This was before any of our interactions or anything like that.”

https://x.com/BauerOutage/status/1708904525724270659?s=20

The GARBAGE by Josh Whitman:

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"The University and DIA have shown time and again that we have zero tolerance for sexual misconduct," Illinois athletic director Josh Whitman said in a university press release. "At the same time, DIA policy affords student-athletes appropriate levels of due process based on the nature and severity of the allegations. We will rely on that policy and our prior experiences to manage this situation appropriately for the University and the involved parties."

Your player got SUCKED into some honey-pot extortion scheme. You & Underwood (as well as DIA) have to take blame as well..DUMB A**!!

Yeah, YOU GOT SUCKED TOO!

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #102 on: December 29, 2023, 02:49:49 PM »
I take back the brain trust comment
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #103 on: December 29, 2023, 02:52:17 PM »
The fuck?

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« Reply #104 on: December 29, 2023, 02:55:30 PM »
The fuck?

Reads like a teamwork orange schizo post to me lol
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