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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #315 on: December 17, 2023, 05:47:01 PM »
How do you know they weren’t bad routes? It’s not like our receivers are consistently on top of their shit
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #316 on: December 17, 2023, 05:48:18 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 05:47:01 PM
How do you know they weren’t bad routes? It’s not like our receivers are consistently on top of their shit

LMFAO

The lengths you will go to deflect ALL accountability from this dude legitimately make me laugh out loud.
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« Reply #317 on: December 17, 2023, 05:49:35 PM »
Couldn’t be a receivers’ fault. They are beyond reproach.

Ever watch the Kmet All22 review against Denver? All Fields’ fault!
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #318 on: December 17, 2023, 05:50:21 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 17, 2023, 05:48:18 PM
LMFAO

The lengths you will go to deflect ALL accountability from this dude legitimately make me laugh out loud.

The lengths you go to bash a young quarterback trying to overcome ineptness all around him is equally as laughable.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #319 on: December 17, 2023, 05:51:20 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 05:49:35 PM
Couldn’t be a receivers’ fault. They are beyond reproach.

Ever watch the Kmet All22 review against Denver? All Fields’ fault!

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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #320 on: December 17, 2023, 05:51:30 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 05:47:01 PM
How do you know they weren’t bad routes? It’s not like our receivers are consistently on top of their shit

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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #321 on: December 17, 2023, 05:51:39 PM »
Olin Kreutz had a good suggestion. Maybe don’t try the young OC with the young quarterback with the young offensive coaching staff with the defensive head coach thing again. Probably good football smarts.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #322 on: December 17, 2023, 05:52:43 PM »
If you guys were willing to spread blame even a little bit I wouldn’t be so defensive. I get that Fields isn’t All-Pro.
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« Reply #323 on: December 17, 2023, 05:52:56 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 05:50:21 PM
The lengths you go to bash a young quarterback trying to overcome ineptness all around him is equally as laughable.

I literally don't have to go to any lengths to criticize him.  His play has been bad.  The eye test, the numbers, the results - none of it has been good.  An outsider would look at his play by any metric and say "man, he hasn't been very good."

If I had to stretch a mile to try to justify my opinion like you do so consistently, I'd probably at least consider changing my opinion.
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« Reply #324 on: December 17, 2023, 05:53:40 PM »
The goal isn’t to be all-pro. It’s to win the game. If Justin gets a bit more help, they win. Period.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #325 on: December 17, 2023, 05:54:27 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 05:52:43 PM
If you guys were willing to spread blame even a little bit I wouldn’t be so defensive. I get that Fields isn’t All-Pro.

Since I started off my posting today by criticizing the playcalling and you immediately got defensive because I also criticized Fields, I don't really believe you.

Yes, he isn't an All-Pro.  No shit.  He isn't even above average since those two games he went off in early October.
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« Reply #326 on: December 17, 2023, 05:55:13 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 05:53:40 PM
The goal isn’t to be all-pro. It’s to win the game. If Justin gets a bit more help, they win. Period.

And if he plays better, they win.  Period.

You simply refuse to acknowledge that he played poorly, ever, under any circumstance.  Any good play, you give him full credit.  Any bad play was someone else's fault.  That's your default.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #327 on: December 17, 2023, 05:55:54 PM »
You started it off  that way and spent the next 7 pages railing on the quarterback. Nicely done. Very fair of you.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #328 on: December 17, 2023, 05:57:01 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 05:55:54 PM
You started it off  that way and spent the next 7 pages railing on the quarterback. Nicely done. Very fair of you.

Because you immediately jumped to the defense of Fields the second anyone criticized him.

The playcalling was terrible today.  That's why in my very first post about the game today, the first thing I said was that the playcalling was terrible.

I just also said the QB play was mediocre as fuck, so you argued with me about that for the next 7 pages.  If you'd just acknowledged the obvious - that Fields was mediocre as fuck today - we wouldn't have had to argue about anything.  But you refuse to, because Fields is above criticism.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #329 on: December 17, 2023, 05:58:08 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 17, 2023, 05:55:13 PM
And if he plays better, they win.  Period.

You simply refuse to acknowledge that he played poorly, ever, under any circumstance.  Any good play, you give him full credit.  Any bad play was someone else's fault.  That's your default.

Again, Justin Fields is not a primary reason they lost the game. He’s probably not even a reason. I get it you want Joe Burrow. Get him the help that Joe Burrow has, then.

And you never responded to the Joe Burrow went 14 for 31 for 82 yards against Cleveland post.
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