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Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!

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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #90 on: November 26, 2023, 07:43:39 AM »
We were our own worst enemy from the beginning to the end.
We played a game with only 1 penalty, holding negated a Newton sack, but easily made up for it by losing the turnover battle 4-2. The turnover difference being 2 tds in 9 seconds.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #91 on: November 26, 2023, 08:26:06 AM »
Quote from: Miles Leonard on November 25, 2023, 10:00:33 PM
Or burning timeouts to argue irreversible calls. Or just burning timeouts in general.
Bielema explains the timeout over the irreversible call saying that if the refs talked the play over the call on the field may get changed.
Same with the holding on the 2 pt conversion.
He also mentions the xxxx game regarding the same issue.

Refs are complimented all the time for talking over the call on the field to get the call right.
Lollinois.


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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #92 on: November 26, 2023, 08:31:38 AM »
Any of the local dumbfucks in the media ask him why he constantly chases extra points and how that blew the chance for overtime?

Granted, he is not alone in this stupidity.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #93 on: November 26, 2023, 08:40:30 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 25, 2023, 10:08:22 PM
He got away chasing 2 with Indiana. It burned him today and cost a chance at a bowl game
There were 7 minutes remaining when we went for 2. Getting 2 would have put us down 3.
I don't like chasing points but I'm not sure going for 2 with 7 min left falls into the chasing points category.

The no call on the 2 pt try at the end is what finished the season but you still can't leave the game in the hands of the refs.

Auburn probably agrees.
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1728572318438268928/vid/avc1/480x852/YF3gky2JC0kiTYNF.mp4?tag=14

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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #94 on: November 26, 2023, 08:58:47 AM »
Quote from: Mn on November 26, 2023, 08:40:30 AM
There were 7 minutes remaining when we went for 2. Getting 2 would have put us down 3.
I don't like chasing points but I'm not sure going for 2 with 7 min left falls into the chasing points category.

The no call on the 2 pt try at the end is what finished the season but you still can't leave the game in the hands of the refs.

Auburn probably agrees.
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1728572318438268928/vid/avc1/480x852/YF3gky2JC0kiTYNF.mp4?tag=14

7 minutes way too much time left. Ton of possessions left, as we saw. Under 5, I'd have to think about given how the game was going.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #95 on: November 26, 2023, 09:07:24 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 26, 2023, 08:58:47 AM
7 minutes way too much time left. Ton of possessions left, as we saw. Under 5, I'd have to think about given how the game was going.
7 minutes may mean you get 1 more possession.
"As we saw" is hindsight.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #96 on: November 26, 2023, 09:09:42 AM »
Quote from: Mn on November 26, 2023, 09:07:24 AM
7 minutes may mean you get 1 more possession.
"As we saw" is hindsight.

Iowa game, that is one thing. That game, nope.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #97 on: November 26, 2023, 09:29:03 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 26, 2023, 09:09:42 AM
Iowa game, that is one thing. That game, nope.
I understand your thinking but also understand going for 2 with less than half of the 4th qtr left. Not getting the 2 there is pretty far down my list of issues with yesterday's game.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #98 on: November 26, 2023, 10:24:43 AM »
The 2 point conversion argument is pretty trite imo. And doesn’t take into consideration that if you kick the extra point the whole rest of the game might have played out differently because of the timing of everything. Wind blows a different way, coach changes his mind, it all would play out differently. So acting like it would have played out exactly the same way is either disingenuous at worst or kinda silly at best.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #99 on: November 26, 2023, 11:54:40 AM »
On the plus side, the cup can be put away. If I don't need it for hoops season and after looking at the 2024 football schedule I don't think I'll need it then either.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #100 on: November 26, 2023, 11:59:50 AM »
Quote from: Custard on November 26, 2023, 10:24:43 AM
The 2 point conversion argument is pretty trite imo. And doesn’t take into consideration that if you kick the extra point the whole rest of the game might have played out differently because of the timing of everything. Wind blows a different way, coach changes his mind, it all would play out differently. So acting like it would have played out exactly the same way is either disingenuous at worst or kinda silly at best.

Except there was no wind. We saw how the game was going. Possessions were quick because both Ds sucked. This is just dumbass football, like the idiot running the Chargers plays, where you shoot yourself in the foot continuously.  He's being paid a lot and needs to be better strategically or else may as well have you on the sideline looking at the chart making the decisions

There are only a few things you can really control in game. Timeouts and going for 2 are 2 of them. Just relying on the chart without any context of how the game is going is moronic. He fucked up against Indiana and got away with it. It bit him in the ass yesterday and it ruined a chance to go to a bowl game. That's on him. But yeah, we are lucky to have him.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #101 on: November 26, 2023, 05:17:57 PM »
Not buying it. Like MN said it’s really far down the list of complaints considering it happened at 7 min mark. And going for one changes everything down the road versus going for two. Not everything is going down the same way after that. The wind was just one example. You can’t just assume everything else plays out the same once something else was changed.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #102 on: November 26, 2023, 05:22:42 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 26, 2023, 05:17:57 PM
Not buying it. Like MN said it’s really far down the list of complaints considering it happened at 7 min mark. And going for one changes everything down the road versus going for two. Not everything is going down the same way after that. The wind was just one example. You can’t just assume everything else plays out the same once something else was changed.

You can't, which is part of the reason it is stupid to do. Take the point.  Go for 2 when it is necessary late in the game.

Of course there was a ton of shit that was, and has been, ridiculous all season: Penalties, playing soft coverage, muffed punts, penalties, blah blah blah. But going for 2 and calling TOs on unreviewable plays are on Bielema and him alone.
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« Reply #103 on: November 26, 2023, 05:37:41 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 26, 2023, 05:22:42 PM
You can't, which is part of the reason it is stupid to do. Take the point.  Go for 2 when it is necessary late in the game.

Of course there was a ton of shit that was, and has been, ridiculous all season: Penalties, playing soft coverage, muffed punts, penalties, blah blah blah. But going for 2 and calling TOs on unreviewable plays are on Bielema and him alone.
Bielema explained the TOs in his post-game and I disagree on the going for 2. If it was PU-Ind and everything was the same I wouldn't question it then either.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini play for a bowl game Sat 11/25 @ 230PM v. NU!
« Reply #104 on: November 26, 2023, 05:44:32 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 26, 2023, 05:37:41 PM
Bielema explained the TOs in his post-game and I disagree on the going for 2. If it was PU-Ind and everything was the same I wouldn't question it then either.

Well, it didn't help yesterday and didn't help against Indiana. And the Illini are sitting home and were the worst team in the worst P5 division in college football. Complete breakdown from top to bottom since the games against Purdue and MSU last year.
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