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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #3735 on: January 09, 2024, 10:28:13 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 09, 2024, 10:25:52 PM
Success, maybe not, but all NFL quarterbacks.

I would hope so - it's only the guys drafted in the first round.
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« Reply #3736 on: January 09, 2024, 10:29:14 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 09, 2024, 10:27:39 PM
All 23 NFL quarterbacks, and out of the 23 I’d say 14 or so at least had/having semi-respectable careers.

But the bottom 8 on the list are better than the top 8 by quite a bit.

Yes, all 1st round QBs from 2015-2021 played NFL football.  The order of the list is not at all correlated to how good they've been as NFL QBs, though.
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« Reply #3737 on: January 09, 2024, 10:29:17 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 09, 2024, 10:28:13 PM
I would hope so - it's only the guys drafted in the first round.

Ahhh, no wonder. Haha
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3738 on: January 09, 2024, 10:33:36 PM »
That stat is kind of odd to read about too.

Strength of schedule plays a part for example, so Fields got + for playing in the CFP against Alabama and Clemson where other guys were dinged because their opponents weren't good enough.

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« Reply #3739 on: January 09, 2024, 10:34:04 PM »
Some pretty good ones near the top though.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3740 on: January 09, 2024, 10:35:24 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 09, 2024, 10:33:36 PM
That stat is kind of odd to read about too.

Strength of schedule plays a part for example, so Fields got + for playing in the CFP against Alabama and Clemson where other guys were dinged because their opponents weren't good enough.

There’s a lot going there for sure. I don’t take analytics such as these as gospel, but to be the #1 most “accurate” passer in college football for a 9-10 year period tells me there’s something there.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3741 on: January 09, 2024, 10:37:11 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 09, 2024, 10:34:04 PM
Some pretty good ones near the top though.

And near the bottom, too.  And also some of the most notable duds scattered pretty evenly throughout.
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« Reply #3742 on: January 09, 2024, 10:39:06 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 09, 2024, 10:35:24 PM
There’s a lot going there for sure. I don’t take analytics such as these as gospel, but to be the #1 most “accurate” passer in college football for a 9-10 year period tells me there’s something there.

Couldn't I also make the "if you're the third most accurate QB drafted in the first round in a 9-10 year period, that tells me there's something there" only I'm talking about Mac Jones?

It just doesn't mean anything in terms of how good somebody is going to be as an NFL QB.  If it did, the best NFL QBs in the NFL would be at the top of the list instead of the bottom.
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« Reply #3743 on: January 09, 2024, 10:39:56 PM »
Again though, that’s just NFL 1st rounders. Fields is #1 all-time (PFF era). Again, take it with a grain of salt, but I don’t think that’s entirely fluky.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3744 on: January 09, 2024, 10:51:22 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 09, 2024, 10:39:56 PM
Again though, that’s just NFL 1st rounders. Fields is #1 all-time (PFF era). Again, take it with a grain of salt, but I don’t think that’s entirely fluky.

Who's #2?

I'm trying to find some evidence of that claim in the article or a list of the 'most accurate college passers of the PFF era', but can't - only that claim in the article you linked from right after the draft, which leads directly into that list I just posted of first round QBs.


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« Reply #3745 on: January 09, 2024, 11:48:35 PM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3746 on: January 09, 2024, 11:50:31 PM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3747 on: January 10, 2024, 08:51:12 AM »
Yes both of those things link to the same article you posted on the last page.

The article doesn’t have a list of the most accurate passers in the PFF era.  It has a chart showing the highest EPA and CPOE during Fields’ time as a starter (19 and 20), and mentions his SOS.  It has the list of first round QBs.  A couple other charts that aren’t “best accuracy in the PFF era”.  It’s kind of a weird claim that they don’t really provide their evidence for.
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« Reply #3748 on: January 10, 2024, 09:08:29 AM »
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« Reply #3749 on: January 13, 2024, 11:48:13 AM »
The guy who restlessly mocked Spark for "comparing" Trubisky to Manning is on a text thread comparing Fields to Brees. You can't make this stuff up.
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