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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #3600 on: January 08, 2024, 04:03:27 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 08, 2024, 12:17:01 AM
But the OL 🙄

https://x.com/robertkschmitz/status/1744234227443339748?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

And looks like Caleb Williams will do just fine with that…

https://x.com/kct2020/status/1744238698432954382?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Interesting, but I’m not sure in a one game sample size that tells the whole story. What if 5 drop backs were abnormally long and 5 were abnormally short? I’m not an elite level tape watcher by any stretch, but it’s pretty obvious the OLine (and DLine) got pushed around, especially up the middle. We were playing a backup to the worst Center in the league, a guard who should have retired last year, and Tevin Jenkins arguably had his worst game as a Bear. Don’t have to be an expert to tell they weren’t good.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3601 on: January 08, 2024, 05:26:45 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 08, 2024, 12:17:01 AM
But the OL 🙄

https://x.com/robertkschmitz/status/1744234227443339748?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

And looks like Caleb Williams will do just fine with that…

https://x.com/kct2020/status/1744238698432954382?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Very intelligent response to the above “stat.” Also notable that I saw several comments from knowledgeable football people about the lack of “quick routes” in Getsy’s offense.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3602 on: January 08, 2024, 05:30:07 AM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3603 on: January 08, 2024, 05:34:33 AM »
I get the arguments for moving on from Flus and Fields, I’m just not convinced you’re automatically better for doing so. I still think you’re better off continuing to build the roster; a roster whose flaws were on full display yesterday (OMG and starting with the quarteback!).
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3604 on: January 08, 2024, 05:43:56 AM »
Need:

Offensive coordinator (this is one thing Bearsdom is almost completely unanimous on)
Center
Another starting caliber Guard
WRx2 (IMO)
RB (although there are bigger needs)

Edge rusher (Danielle Hunter or Kayvon Thibodeaux would be nice)
3Tech
Free Safety (I like the idea of Smith moving there)

And maybe QB. Not at all
Opposed to drafting Penix or one of those guys.

Say the Bears traded for McLaurin and picks, traded down again got Odunze and Penix, id not only be ok with that, I’d venture to guess I’d be pretty fired up about it.

I don’t mind spending a high pick on a QB and keeping Fields because “getting it right” is more important than whatever trade value Fields or Penix would have.

I’m not convinced Williams works out, and I don’t think he’d even want to come here TBH. Could be wrong.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3605 on: January 08, 2024, 06:23:36 AM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 07, 2024, 11:21:24 PM
I really thought this was PAMan before I saw the username.

I was honestly curious but this answers my question just as well - probably not super good or you wouldn’t have dodged the question.

Interesting how those other guys’ PFF grades were relevant but asking what Fields’ grade was is trolling somehow.
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« Reply #3606 on: January 08, 2024, 07:06:22 AM »
It was sad to watch Fields say his goodbyes yesterday in the postgame.  I really do like the guy.
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« Reply #3607 on: January 08, 2024, 07:19:10 AM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 08, 2024, 05:34:33 AM
I get the arguments for moving on from Flus and Fields, I’m just not convinced you’re automatically better for doing so. I still think you’re better off continuing to build the roster; a roster whose flaws were on full display yesterday (OMG and starting with the quarteback!).

You could say that about anyone if your goal is maintaining the status quo of suckitude, which the FFFs are.
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« Reply #3608 on: January 08, 2024, 07:21:45 AM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 08, 2024, 05:26:45 AM
Very intelligent response to the above “stat.” Also notable that I saw several comments from knowledgeable football people about the lack of “quick routes” in Getsy’s offense.



Can't say I've ever heard of knowledgable football expert Maher Abu Arja before. But that person does have a Blue Checkmark!
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« Reply #3609 on: January 08, 2024, 07:31:18 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 08, 2024, 06:23:36 AM
I was honestly curious but this answers my question just as well - probably not super good or you wouldn’t have dodged the question.

Interesting how those other guys’ PFF grades were relevant but asking what Fields’ grade was is trolling somehow.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-week-17-analytical-quarterback-rankings-lamar-jackson-takes-over-at-no-1

Going into yesterday, they had him at 17. Behind Mason Rudolph and Browning,  but somehow ahead of Flacco.

Yeah, let's extend this guy because the Bear MIGHT pick someone shittier.
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« Reply #3610 on: January 08, 2024, 07:32:33 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 08, 2024, 07:06:22 AM
It was sad to watch Fields say his goodbyes yesterday in the postgame.  I really do like the guy.

His last pass as a Bear was a pass in the flat that was way too high. Fitting.
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« Reply #3611 on: January 08, 2024, 07:43:46 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 08, 2024, 06:23:36 AM
I was honestly curious but this answers my question just as well - probably not super good or you wouldn’t have dodged the question.

Interesting how those other guys’ PFF grades were relevant but asking what Fields’ grade was is trolling somehow.

I don’t know what his was. It wasn’t in the tweet that I shared. But as JT has often said “you can’t play quarterback like this.” If just about everything around Justin being garbage is “making excuses,” well then I guess I’m making excuses. I’ve never once tried to say Justin was perfect. Despite what you say.
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« Reply #3612 on: January 08, 2024, 07:44:34 AM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 08, 2024, 07:43:46 AM
I don’t know what his was. It wasn’t in the tweet that I shared. But as JT has often said “you can’t play quarterback like this.” If just about everything around Justin being garbage is “making excuses,” well then I guess I’m making excuses. I’ve never once tried to say Justin was perfect. Despite what you say.

Yes, you are making excuses.
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« Reply #3613 on: January 08, 2024, 07:45:21 AM »
All Getsy's fault that Fields almost threw a pick instead of a TD pass yesterday
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« Reply #3614 on: January 08, 2024, 07:49:24 AM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 08, 2024, 07:43:46 AM
I don’t know what his was. It wasn’t in the tweet that I shared. But as JT has often said “you can’t play quarterback like this.” If just about everything around Justin being garbage is “making excuses,” well then I guess I’m making excuses. I’ve never once tried to say Justin was perfect. Despite what you say.

Nor have you ever accepted any criticism of him from someone else on this board, or even compliments to his teammates that you could stretchily infer were criticisms of him.  You're more defensive of him than I've ever seen someone be about a person they didn't know.  Last week I said "Really good throw, great catch" and you interpreted that as a criticism of Justin Fields.

If having bad WRs can affect a QB's PFF grade then the opposite is true too, but I'm pretty sure the whole point of PFF grades is to evaluate how each person played individually, which is why I asked about Fields'.  That grade is supposed to count things like drops etc. as positives for a QB if it was a good throw.

You've been making excuses all year.  The list is extremely long.
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