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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2880 on: December 21, 2023, 10:36:27 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 10:32:35 AM
I doubt it if he has Marvin Harrison, Junior, and better players around him, and one would assume better coaching then he will clearly deserve a much larger share of the blame

Much larger than “literally zero ever” is not encouraging.

I’m curious - why do you think Mooney went from a 1000 yard guy when he was rookie Fields’ WR1 to a guy you think is worth all the criticism you give him as third year Fields’ WR2?  Is it possible Fields is going to struggle to consistently feed a WR2 even if it’s Marvin Harrison?  What’s the best year a WR2 has had in Fields’ three seasons?

What if Marvin Harrison gets hurt?  Will you use that as an excuse?  History says “almost certainly”.
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« Reply #2881 on: December 21, 2023, 10:37:07 AM »
However, I am pretty convinced that this team would’ve done better maybe much better have they not had so many early season injuries but unfortunately I don’t get that luxury here
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2882 on: December 21, 2023, 10:37:26 AM »
Because once the team started getting healthier in the last month, we saw vast improvement
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2883 on: December 21, 2023, 10:37:57 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 10:34:30 AM

Leave it to Jobu to not understand that this isn’t your traditional rebuild. Most teams aren’t starting from damn near scratch. I’ve been watching football for 45 years and I don’t recall ever watching a team trading away their three best players in one season and having half the team on one year deals.

Since free agency, teams constantly rebuild. Every fucking year. It's rare nowadays to not have a bunch of new faces on a team. Poles chose to rebuild it this way. That doesn't mean I have to be patient or have to like watching these shitheads lose games that should be won. And I certainly don't have to like watching Fields hold the ball while receivers are running down the field wide open.

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« Reply #2884 on: December 21, 2023, 10:38:06 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 10:37:26 AM
Because once the team started getting healthier in the last month, we saw vast improvement

The Bears are .500 since they got Montez Sweat
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« Reply #2885 on: December 21, 2023, 10:38:23 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 21, 2023, 10:36:27 AM
Much larger than “literally zero ever” is not encouraging.

I’m curious - why do you think Mooney went from a 1000 yard guy when he was rookie Fields’ WR1 to a guy you think is worth all the criticism you give him as third year Fields’ WR2?  Is it possible Fields is going to struggle to consistently feed a WR2 even if it’s Marvin Harrison?  What’s the best year a WR2 has had in Fields’ three seasons?

What if Marvin Harrison gets hurt?  Will you use that as an excuse?  History says “almost certainly”.

Mooney hasn’t been the same since the injury. Why do you think DJ Moore is having a career year?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2886 on: December 21, 2023, 10:39:05 AM »
Well, I’m not so narrow minded to think that significant injuries don’t matter
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2887 on: December 21, 2023, 10:39:18 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 10:36:05 AM
I’m not allowed to be optimistic? In No way did I promise anything. It’s unbelievable how much you sound PAMan

So no, no accountability for selling the Bears massive improvement all year, and then criticizing others for your own “comical” expectations.

Just “hey I’m a fan, I was optimistic, sue me!”
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2888 on: December 21, 2023, 10:40:44 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 10:27:29 AM
Well, I did win the Mack trade debate, and I was ahead of the curve on Nagy.

But you lost on Fields and Flus. You are 2-2. You are Tyson Bagent.
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« Reply #2889 on: December 21, 2023, 10:41:02 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 10:38:23 AM
Mooney hasn’t been the same since the injury. Why do you think DJ Moore is having a career year?

Because he’s easily the most talented WR on the team, he has a QB that struggles to read and process defenses and so often forces it to the first read or hits a check down, and because he is a great YAC guy who can catch a pass at the LOS and take it to the house (which he did a couple different times in the best game so far of Fields’ career).

Why do you think Fields has never had a WR2 have a big year, even when the WR2 is a guy who did have a big year as WR1?
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« Reply #2890 on: December 21, 2023, 10:41:23 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 21, 2023, 10:39:18 AM
So no, no accountability for selling the Bears massive improvement all year, and then criticizing others for your own “comical” expectations.

Just “hey I’m a fan, I was optimistic, sue me!”


I can’t predict injuries and how they will impact the integration of 30 new players. Sorry I’m not that prescient.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2891 on: December 21, 2023, 10:42:06 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 21, 2023, 10:41:02 AM
Because he’s easily the most talented WR on the team, he has a QB that struggles to read and process defenses and so often forces it to the first read or hits a check down, and because he is a great YAC guy who can catch a pass at the LOS and take it to the house (which he did a couple different times in the best game so far of Fields’ career).

Why do you think Fields has never had a WR2 have a big year, even when the WR2 is a guy who did have a big year as WR1?

If their success were volume based you’d have a better point, their efficiency together is through the roof
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2892 on: December 21, 2023, 10:42:58 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 10:41:23 AM


I can’t predict injuries and how they will impact the integration of 30 new players. Sorry I’m not that prescient.

Yes you have a list of excuses for why you can’t be held accountable for your own expectations this year
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« Reply #2893 on: December 21, 2023, 10:43:15 AM »
And for the 7,392nd time I have conceded that Fields needs to see and read things better but I think that is something that can be improved on.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2894 on: December 21, 2023, 10:43:57 AM »
Jalen hurts is going through the same criticism right now and oh by the way he’s leading the league in turnovers
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