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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2250 on: December 13, 2023, 05:35:38 PM »
What percentage of credit / blame for Fields’ performance (good and bad) as a passer would you give to Getsy, as opposed to Fields or Eberflus?
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« Reply #2251 on: December 13, 2023, 05:55:12 PM »
Everybody sees what Tempo is doing. He’s not fooling anybody. Spark is eating him alive.
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« Reply #2252 on: December 13, 2023, 06:04:32 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 13, 2023, 05:55:12 PM
Everybody sees what Tempo is doing. He’s not fooling anybody. Spark is eating him alive.

I'm trying to talk to him dude.  I'm not trying to "get him".

If I'm misrepresenting something he's saying it's not intentional and I appreciate him pointing it out.
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« Reply #2253 on: December 13, 2023, 06:08:40 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 13, 2023, 06:04:32 PM
I'm trying to talk to him dude.  I'm not trying to "get him".

If I'm misrepresenting something he's saying it's not intentional and I appreciate him pointing it out.

It’s pointless. He’s literally a Justin Fields apologist. Like he’s purposely being dishonest and the last 10 pages of bullshit. Nobody is saying you’re “trying to get him” either. You’re eating him alive by pointing out his hypocrisy and bullshit.
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« Reply #2254 on: December 13, 2023, 06:08:55 PM »
I think Getsy is part of the problem, I never once said “we can’t evaluate anyone (or even Justin specifically) because of Getsy.” Do I think Getsy is bad at his job? Yes. So do most Bears fans.
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« Reply #2255 on: December 13, 2023, 06:09:21 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 13, 2023, 05:55:12 PM
Everybody sees what Tempo is doing. He’s not fooling anybody. Spark is eating him alive.

Oh JFC
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« Reply #2256 on: December 13, 2023, 06:10:38 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 13, 2023, 05:35:38 PM
What percentage of credit / blame for Fields’ performance (good and bad) as a passer would you give to Getsy, as opposed to Fields or Eberflus?

That’s impossible to answer.
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« Reply #2257 on: December 13, 2023, 06:22:01 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 13, 2023, 06:10:38 PM
That’s impossible to answer.

Just say all of it and end this 20 page fucking bullshit of a defense of Fields…
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« Reply #2258 on: December 13, 2023, 06:38:24 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 13, 2023, 06:10:38 PM
That’s impossible to answer.

This sort of thing really surprises me.  Like, it doesn't seem to match every other part of our conversations about Fields and Getsy.
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« Reply #2259 on: December 13, 2023, 07:32:40 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 13, 2023, 06:22:01 PM
Just say all of it and end this 20 page fucking bullshit of a defense of Fields…

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« Reply #2260 on: December 13, 2023, 07:34:16 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 13, 2023, 06:38:24 PM
This sort of thing really surprises me.  Like, it doesn't seem to match every other part of our conversations about Fields and Getsy.

The one thing Bears fans are unified on these days is that Luke Getsy is bad at his job. He’s PART of the problem. Thst doesn’t mean there aren’t things we can evaluate Justin on fairly. You’re doing exactly what you always accuse me of doing.
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« Reply #2261 on: December 13, 2023, 07:35:10 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 13, 2023, 07:34:16 PM
The one thing Bears fans are unified on these days is that Luke Getsy is bad at his job. He’s PART of the problem. Thst doesn’t mean there aren’t things we can evaluate Justin on fairly. You’re doing exactly what you always accuse me of doing.

I have literally NEVER accused you of trying to clarify my views so you could discuss them instead of beat up a strawman - promise.
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« Reply #2262 on: December 13, 2023, 07:35:37 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 13, 2023, 04:23:00 PM
If you ignore all the times I said that?  Sure.

I’ve said over and over sure, the guy is likely to be improved with more experienced.

But right now you say he’s so bad that it’s not even fair to evaluate his players because they play for him - would you expect him improve so much that that’s no longer true?  You’ve been blaming Fields’ performance on him all year, it surprised me quite a bit to see the “well he’ll probably be improved if he’s back next year” take.

I’d like for you to produce that quote.
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« Reply #2263 on: December 13, 2023, 07:40:01 PM »
I’ve watched a fair bit of expert (what’s an expert?! Lol) All22 Analysis this year, and I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard things like “the details in the offense aren’t there; this is not a football play on Friday night, Saturday morning, or Sunday Afternoon; etc” they are criticizing the coaching and design.

Again, the one thing Bears are pretty unified on is that Getsy sucks. I don’t think he puts his team and quarterback in strong position to win.
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« Reply #2264 on: December 13, 2023, 07:45:26 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 13, 2023, 07:35:37 PM
I’d like for you to produce that quote.

I apologize that I misrepresented you.  I haven't said it since then, because I don't want to misrepresent you.

It wasn't intentional.  It was the impression that I'd gotten from all the times we'd talked about Fields' play, and I was wrong.

My bad.
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