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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #1185 on: December 09, 2023, 12:20:52 AM »
You’re the one that latched on to Brad Biggs because apparently his word is practically gospel
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1186 on: December 09, 2023, 01:56:04 AM »
Quote from: Tempo Horsecockington on December 09, 2023, 12:20:52 AM
You’re the one that latched on to Brad Biggs because apparently his word is practically gospel

You’re among the most full of shit humans alive.

I didn’t bring up Brad Biggs, Judy did.  I just thought it was funny that Troy Aikman was your touchstone while you completely disregarded the Bears beat writer.

And now you’re going to do the Tempo chihuahua thing where you bring up Brad Biggs to lie about me for the next decade
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« Reply #1187 on: December 09, 2023, 01:57:14 AM »
Quote from: Tempo Horsecockington on December 09, 2023, 12:19:51 AM
It’s foolish to think that day to day things don’t matter to Ryan Poles. It’ll be part again I emphasize part of the evaluation.

Again, I’m sure they do to the extent that they help him play well.

If someone working hard was enough to pay them $100m to be an NFL QB there’d be way fewer busts.  He has to perform.  It’s unreal that’s even controversial.
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« Reply #1188 on: December 09, 2023, 03:02:48 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 01:56:04 AM
You’re among the most full of shit humans alive.

I didn’t bring up Brad Biggs, Judy did.  I just thought it was funny that Troy Aikman was your touchstone while you completely disregarded the Bears beat writer.

And now you’re going to do the Tempo chihuahua thing where you bring up Brad Biggs to lie about me for the next decade

For 50th time, I don’t “disregard,” anything. I have fully acknowledged that there’s a good chance the Bears move on from Fields. I just don’t see why Brad Biggs thinking it moves the needle. He’s been wrong before. How many times do I have to say that I get that there’s a better chance he’s gone than he returns (but I think it’s closer than maybe some think)?

Having said that, I get that Spark from HQ2 is unimpressed with Justin Fields, I just think it might/possibly could be a mistake to assume Ryan Poles is equally as unimpressed.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1189 on: December 09, 2023, 03:07:29 AM »
Who’s the one harping on “insider” Brad Biggs? Not me. The ONLY FUCKING THING I have tried to impress on you is that I don’t think anyone outside of Poles’ inner circle knows or even thinks they know with a degree of certainty what they will do. And that both sides of the coin are valid opinions, because I think this is a closer decision than some Fields detractors are thinking it is. That’s my OPINION.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1190 on: December 09, 2023, 03:08:49 AM »
Yes, I cited Troy Aikman (who seems to see things the way I see them). Are you asking me over and over about Brad Biggs if he’s spouting an opinion different from yours? See how that works? It’s works both ways, right?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1191 on: December 09, 2023, 03:11:08 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 01:57:14 AM
Again, I’m sure they do to the extent that they help him play well.

If someone working hard was enough to pay them $100m to be an NFL QB there’d be way fewer busts.  He has to perform.  It’s unreal that’s even controversial.

My point is “playing well” according to Spark and according to Ryan Poles might not be the same thing? What if he’s more impressed by his last 5 games than you are? Is that not a possibility?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1192 on: December 09, 2023, 03:15:47 AM »
FTR, id “prefer” that Biggs didn’t have that opinion, but I’m not going to treat his reporting as fact. Because I’m not convinced it is. As a Fields supporter, sure, I’d rather hear Brad Biggs say he’s confident Fields will be back. But Biggs’ reporting isn’t the be all/end all.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1193 on: December 09, 2023, 08:52:48 AM »
Quote from: Tempo Horsecockington on December 09, 2023, 03:02:48 AM
For 50th time, I don’t “disregard,” anything. I have fully acknowledged that there’s a good chance the Bears move on from Fields. I just don’t see why Brad Biggs thinking it moves the needle. He’s been wrong before. How many times do I have to say that I get that there’s a better chance he’s gone than he returns (but I think it’s closer than maybe some think)?

Having said that, I get that Spark from HQ2 is unimpressed with Justin Fields, I just think it might/possibly could be a mistake to assume Ryan Poles is equally as unimpressed.

Brad Biggs thinking it doesn’t move the needle, as I explicitly stated (literally even used that phrase!).  I think it’s funny that you tried to use Troy Aikman - who has also been wrong before - as some evidence while ignoring someone whose job is to have sources within the Bears.  That’s it.

I didn’t assume anything.  Have said a bunch of times in this discussion it doesn’t matter what I think and that the Bears very well might keep him, but you don’t listen to me in any circumstance ever so I’m wasting my time.
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« Reply #1194 on: December 09, 2023, 08:58:58 AM »
Quote from: Tempo Horsecockington on December 09, 2023, 03:08:49 AM
Yes, I cited Troy Aikman (who seems to see things the way I see them). Are you asking me over and over about Brad Biggs if he’s spouting an opinion different from yours? See how that works? It’s works both ways, right?

I’ve already addressed why I mentioned Biggs - who was brought up by someone else - I don’t know 8-10 times?  But you cannot read so anything I post is wasting time.

The point, to repeat, again, is that you used Aikman to prove “credible” people agree with you here, but completely handwaved and disregarded the view of someone who I’d assume, based on your complete unwillingness to answer the direct question asked of you, you recognize is probably more likely to have an idea than Troy Aikman is.

I recognize that some people think the Bears will keep Fields.  Other people don’t.  I don’t know whether they will - IMO it would be a mistake to - but Troy Aikman’s unevidenced opinion isn’t very relevant.  Certainly a Bears best writer - even one who has been wrong before - has more visibility into the Bears FO than Aikman does.
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« Reply #1195 on: December 09, 2023, 09:00:19 AM »
If Justin Fields doesn’t end up good I plan on mocking you for the next decade as if you thought Troy Aikman’s opinion was infallible (maybe I should use the word “gospel” like you tried to) - just so you know.  It’s what you’ve done to me so consistently so just wanted to warn you.
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« Reply #1196 on: December 09, 2023, 09:22:11 AM »
Lmao
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« Reply #1197 on: December 09, 2023, 09:25:41 AM »
Wanna debate the Mack Trade?
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« Reply #1198 on: December 09, 2023, 09:33:06 AM »
All that I have tried to do in this “conversation,” is try to impress upon you that I think the decision to keep Fields is likely a closer one than you apparently think. If you forced me to bet my own money, I’d probably take your side.

But you seem pretty dead set that he has to be at an All-Pro level the last 5 games to make the decision a tough one. I think there’s a pretty REASONABLE chance he’s back if he’s merely “competent.”
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« Reply #1199 on: December 09, 2023, 09:35:43 AM »
Quote from: Tempo Horsecockington on December 09, 2023, 09:25:41 AM
Wanna debate the Mack Trade?

This sort of shit is why you better hope Fields ends up good
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