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« Reply #1155 on: December 08, 2023, 07:38:18 PM »
Are you waiting for me to say that Brad Biggs “FOR SURE!” knows better? Because I’m not sure he does. You know Aikman doesn’t just show up on Sunday and call the games, right? He has meetings and discussions with GMs and coaches. I’m not saying he’s “as connected!” As Brad Biggs, but Brad Biggs has been wrong before, and seems to always give the standard default type of reporting. “Gotta win a game so you can learn how to win!” “Not sure the Bears will get much for the 1st pick…”
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« Reply #1156 on: December 08, 2023, 07:40:21 PM »
Quote from: Tempo Horsecockington on December 08, 2023, 07:38:18 PM
Are you waiting for me to say that Brad Biggs “FOR SURE!” knows better? Because I’m not sure he does. You know Aikman doesn’t just show up on Sunday and call the games, right? He has meetings and discussions with GMs and coaches. I’m not saying he’s “as connected!” As Brad Biggs, but Brad Biggs has been wrong before, and seems to always give the standard default type of reporting. “Gotta win a game so you can learn how to win!” “Not sure the Bears will get much for the 1st pick…”

I asked the question I wanted to ask.  You still haven’t answered.  You’ve replied about 10 times, but steadfastly avoided the direct question I asked.

Again, in one way that is an answer.
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« Reply #1157 on: December 08, 2023, 07:42:21 PM »
What the Hell is the question? Does Brad Biggs know more than Troy Aikman? I’m not sure he does.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1158 on: December 08, 2023, 07:43:11 PM »
He might know more about the roster, but I’m not sure his insight into Ryan Poles’ head is any greater.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1159 on: December 08, 2023, 07:44:34 PM »
And for the 14th time, Aikman never said or implied he knows what will happen with Fields.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1160 on: December 08, 2023, 07:44:47 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 08, 2023, 07:15:26 PM
I'm actually curious on this.  In terms of who probably has a better grasp on what the Bears FO is thinking, do you think it's Brad Biggs or Troy Aikman?  One of them agrees with you, and the other one doesn't.
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« Reply #1161 on: December 08, 2023, 07:45:48 PM »
Quote from: Tempo Horsecockington on December 08, 2023, 07:44:34 PM
And for the 14th time, Aikman never said or implied he knows what will happen with Fields.

I just think it’s kind of funny how you used his opinion to validate your own, but completely handwave the Bears beat writer’s because he doesn’t agree with you.

For the record, I don’t think my opinion is any more or less valid because it agrees or disagrees with either guy in question.  Same with yours.  Troy Aikman agreeing with you, or Brad Biggs not agreeing with you, do not move the needle.  You are the one trying to validate his opinion via opinions in the media.
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« Reply #1162 on: December 08, 2023, 07:52:24 PM »
What would you have said in Trubisky’s third year if I’d been like, well Troy Aikman thinks he’s a franchise guy and I’d think he knows a little bit about playing QB.

Would that have affected your opinion of Trubisky?
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« Reply #1163 on: December 08, 2023, 08:58:42 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 08, 2023, 07:45:48 PM
I just think it’s kind of funny how you used his opinion to validate your own, but completely handwave the Bears beat writer’s because he doesn’t agree with you.

For the record, I don’t think my opinion is any more or less valid because it agrees or disagrees with either guy in question.  Same with yours.  Troy Aikman agreeing with you, or Brad Biggs not agreeing with you, do not move the needle.  You are the one trying to validate his opinion via opinions in the media.

I’m not saying one is vastly more credible than the other, so I don’t know what you’re getting at.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1164 on: December 08, 2023, 09:00:28 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 08, 2023, 07:52:24 PM
What would you have said in Trubisky’s third year if I’d been like, well Troy Aikman thinks he’s a franchise guy and I’d think he knows a little bit about playing QB.

Would that have affected your opinion of Trubisky?

You entirely miss the point of why I bring that up. You seem pretty firmly in the camp that the Bears must move on from Fields. I’m just pointing out that some credible voices feel otherwise, that’s it. Nothing more, nothing less. Neither opinion is way better than the other. Make of that what you will.
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« Reply #1165 on: December 08, 2023, 09:32:07 PM »
Do you really think my point was “we shouldn’t move on from Fields because Troy Aikman says they shouldn’t?” Lol
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1166 on: December 08, 2023, 09:37:52 PM »
I think the point was to validate your own opinion by finding some well-known credible voice agreeing with it, yeah.

Which is why I asked whether Troy Aikman's opinion was as credible when he didn't agree with you.

I feel like if I'd said that at the time you'd still be talking about it.
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« Reply #1167 on: December 08, 2023, 09:42:52 PM »
So Brad Biggs is Jay Mariotti now.

Hilarious
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« Reply #1168 on: December 08, 2023, 09:51:35 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 08, 2023, 09:37:52 PM
I think the point was to validate your own opinion by finding some well-known credible voice agreeing with it, yeah.


ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS SHOW THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE VALID OPINION.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1169 on: December 08, 2023, 09:52:04 PM »
Quote from: jobu on December 08, 2023, 09:42:52 PM
So Brad Biggs is Jay Mariotti now.

Hilarious

Do better.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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