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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #795 on: December 04, 2023, 05:04:13 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 04, 2023, 05:02:18 PM
Still.

Nothing's better than what he brings.

I've got him on ignore, and can't lie - it really improves this place.

Again, I assume others feel the same about me; fair enough.

I used to think PAMan was a cool dude, before he completely committed to being an insufferable troll.

Of course he is never going to figure out Tempo is a douche.
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« Reply #796 on: December 04, 2023, 05:17:16 PM »
You’re gonna have to translate that for me. “28-3.”
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #797 on: December 04, 2023, 05:18:02 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 04, 2023, 05:04:13 PM
Of course he is never going to figure out Tempo is a douche.

PAMan’s response to Spark. Interesting…
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #798 on: December 04, 2023, 05:20:01 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 04, 2023, 05:02:18 PM
Still.

Nothing's better than what he brings.

I've got him on ignore, and can't lie - it really improves this place.

That would explain why you didn’t understand my other posts.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #799 on: December 04, 2023, 05:22:54 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 04, 2023, 04:59:45 PM
No idea.  That seems like something that the Bears FO would do.

I think at the end of the day it's Lynch's call who gets picked though, and it's definitely not a given that they agree.

On a quarterback…one in which they gave up a lot of draft capital to get. They agreed.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #800 on: December 04, 2023, 05:24:48 PM »
Could they have disagreed about Brock Purdy? Absolutely.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #801 on: December 04, 2023, 05:25:43 PM »
But even that’s likely a no
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #802 on: December 04, 2023, 05:26:23 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 05:18:02 PM
PAMan’s response to Spark. Interesting…

If his therapist doesn't tell him, he isn't.
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« Reply #803 on: December 04, 2023, 05:27:52 PM »
Does Kyle Shanahan sign off on what defensive linemen Lynch drafts? Probably not.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #804 on: December 04, 2023, 05:28:09 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 05:22:54 PM
On a quarterback…one in which they gave up a lot of draft capital to get. They agreed.

Sounds like maybe there were reports that they didn't completely?

There's a wide gap between "we agree on who is the best to take" and "if you take this guy I will quit" or something like that.  I'm sure they work together to make the decision, but the decision is John Lynch's ultimately whether they agree or not.
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« Reply #805 on: December 04, 2023, 05:31:48 PM »
I guarantee you John Lynch isn’t saddling Kyle Shanahan with a QB he hasn’t signed off on. That is just so incredibly unlikely. Talk about creating dysfunction. They don’t seem like a dysfunctional franchise to me.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #806 on: December 04, 2023, 05:33:29 PM »
So again, Spark. I ask the question “which quarterbacks specifically are overcoming far less than optimal situations?”
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« Reply #807 on: December 04, 2023, 05:33:48 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 05:31:48 PM
I guarantee you John Lynch isn’t saddling Kyle Shanahan with a QB he hasn’t signed off on. That is just so incredibly unlikely. Talk about creating dysfunction. They don’t seem like a dysfunctional franchise to me.

So, let's say they're in the position to take a QB and want a QB.

John Lynch wants to take Trey Lance, and Kyle Shanahan wants to take Mac Jones.  It's not open-and-shut or anything, but Lynch prefers Lance and Shanahan prefers Jones.  Who do they take?  Think John Lynch is willing to risk his own job to let Shanahan pick the QB?  He is Shanahan's boss.

'Signing off' on picking someone is not the same thing as agreeing with picking them.  That they picked Lance doesn't mean they totally agreed and he was also Shanahan's first choice.  It is ultimately Lynch's call.
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« Reply #808 on: December 04, 2023, 05:37:37 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 05:33:29 PM
So again, Spark. I ask the question “which quarterbacks specifically are overcoming far less than optimal situations?”

I'm not playing that dumb game with you again.

Justin Fields hasn't been good enough to justify paying.  It's possible he plays well enough to justify paying him next year, but that is a huge risk given the ability to take a QB high in the draft this year.

You are considerably more impressed than I am with the "turnaround", in which 3 of the last 6 games he has played the offense has been really bad.   I don't think I could justify paying him or passing on a top draft prospect due to that 'turnaround'.  This without mentioning that you were raving about his turnaround last year too.

There's nothing much more to say about it.  You want to keep Fields and potentially pass on the top QBs (doing both just isn't a realistic option).  I think the most likely result of that by far is that we end up in a bad situation a year from now, when Fields is in a make-or-break year with our roster's cap flexibility on the line with a new coach and a new OC.

Can you at least commit to not continuing to make the infinite, never-ending excuses for him if they do keep him?  It'll be absolutely insufferable if you're still blaming everyone else a year from now.  Surely you see that would be silly.
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« Reply #809 on: December 04, 2023, 05:37:53 PM »
They’re just no fucking way a competent GM is going to Kyle Shanahan and says “here’s your QB, like it or not.” No fucking way.
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