* *

User

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

June 16, 2026, 06:21:36 PM

Login with username, password and session length

Recent

Stats

Members
  • Total Members: 142
  • Latest: Hal9000
Stats
  • Total Posts: 180407
  • Total Topics: 1496
  • Online Today: 355
  • Online Ever: 4316
  • (October 16, 2025, 04:40:42 PM)
Users Online
Users: 3
Guests: 126
Total: 129

« previous next »
Pages: 1 ... 45 46 [47] 48 49 ... 419   Go Down

THE JFC Thread!

  • 6279 Replies
  • 655823 Views

0 Members and 8 Guests are viewing this topic.

*

spark mandrill

  • *****
  • 4043
  • +312/-40
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #690 on: December 04, 2023, 10:51:06 AM »
Alright I’m done.

Obviously only Tempo’s opinion is valid here.  He says Fields will be the next Brady, and the only reason he hasn’t been so far is because of everyone else. 

See how frustrating that shit is?
Logged
*

spark mandrill

  • *****
  • 4043
  • +312/-40
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #691 on: December 04, 2023, 10:52:03 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 10:48:44 AM
Russell Wilson? Probable HOFer with HOF coach in his corner? That Russell Wilson? The Russell Wilson with premium draft capital invested in his skill players?

The Bears traded the first overall pick for a top WR for Fields less than a year ago.
Logged
*

Reacher

  • *****
  • 40184
  • +1080/-1068
  • You should see my passer rating
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #692 on: December 04, 2023, 10:53:51 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 04, 2023, 10:51:06 AM
Alright I’m done.

Obviously only Tempo’s opinion is valid here.  He says Fields will be the next Brady, and the only reason he hasn’t been so far is because of everyone else. 

See how frustrating that shit is?

Dude, you cited Sam Howell who’s had 1 TD to 5 Ints the last three weeks, despite throwing the fuck out of it to talented players as a noticeably better performer than Justin Fields. Cmon.
Logged
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
*

Reacher

  • *****
  • 40184
  • +1080/-1068
  • You should see my passer rating
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #693 on: December 04, 2023, 10:55:22 AM »
I’d be curious to see what Fields could do throwing it 48 times a game (cue the PAMan “he doesn’t throw the ball” post).
Logged
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
*

spark mandrill

  • *****
  • 4043
  • +312/-40
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #694 on: December 04, 2023, 10:59:30 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 10:53:51 AM
Dude, you cited Sam Howell who’s had 1 TD to 5 Ints the last three weeks, despite throwing the fuck out of it to talented players as a noticeably better performer than Justin Fields. Cmon.

I’ll admit, being out of fantasy I pay less attention to the rest of the league than I used to - I knew Howell had been killing it, hadn’t noticed that he’d fallen off the last few weeks.  My bad.
Logged
*

spark mandrill

  • *****
  • 4043
  • +312/-40
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #695 on: December 04, 2023, 11:00:41 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 10:55:22 AM
I’d be curious to see what Fields could do throwing it 48 times a game (cue the PAMan “he doesn’t throw the ball” post).

You’ve gotta admit, the sack numbers would be almost definitely staggering.

I think he would be considerably less efficient if he threw the ball that much, which is kind of the problem in a nutshell.  He’s a QB, but you can’t really trust him to move the ball with his arm consistently.
Logged
*

Reacher

  • *****
  • 40184
  • +1080/-1068
  • You should see my passer rating
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #696 on: December 04, 2023, 11:04:49 AM »
I am being as sincere as I possibly can. I am AGAIN saying I get why you feel the way you do, and that moving on from Fields is justifiable. What I am saying is I think he will get better as his situation continues to improve. I would not move on yet. That is my OPINION. I could be wrong. But I don’t think pointing at upgrades on the line (when those upgrades have probably missed a combined 15-16 games) is valid talking point. I expect Wright to be a stud, but he’s not all the way there yet.
Logged
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
*

spark mandrill

  • *****
  • 4043
  • +312/-40
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #697 on: December 04, 2023, 11:05:54 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 11:04:49 AM
I am being as sincere as I possibly can. I am AGAIN saying I get why you feel the way you do, and that moving on from Fields is justifiable. What I am saying is I think he will get better as his situation continues to improve. I would not move on yet. That is my OPINION. I could be wrong. But I don’t think pointing at upgrades on the line (when those upgrades have probably missed a combined 15-16 games) is valid talking point. I expect Wright to be a stud, but he’s not all the way there yet.

That’s fine.  I don’t think the line has been nearly as bad as you have consistently claimed - I think a lot of that is coming from you looking for a way to excuse Fields.
Logged
*

Reacher

  • *****
  • 40184
  • +1080/-1068
  • You should see my passer rating
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #698 on: December 04, 2023, 11:08:51 AM »
This looks pretty updated.

Jenkins has played 65% of snaps this year. Jones 49%. Davis 45%. Not enough.

Logged
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
*

Reacher

  • *****
  • 40184
  • +1080/-1068
  • You should see my passer rating
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #699 on: December 04, 2023, 11:09:45 AM »
Not to mention 61% for Fields.
Logged
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
*

spark mandrill

  • *****
  • 4043
  • +312/-40
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #700 on: December 04, 2023, 11:10:21 AM »
And to repeat something I’ve said a few times:

The worst case scenario here is we’re still arguing whether Fields is good enough a year from now. There can be zero excuses at that point.

If that happens we will regret not taking a shot at a top QB.  The top QB may not work out, of course, but it would be a mistake not to strike while that iron’s hot, especially for the sake of a guy who hasn’t shown enough consistency and is going to cost $100m+.

You’ve said to keep him AND pick a QB - if they do that I might be done.  That would be criminal mismanagement of resources.
Logged
*

Reacher

  • *****
  • 40184
  • +1080/-1068
  • You should see my passer rating
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #701 on: December 04, 2023, 11:19:11 AM »
You can find a quarterback in other places besides #1 overall. Those guys bust as much as the next guy. Lamar, Jalen, Russell, Purdy, Cousins, Rodgers, Dak. Most of the league had a chance at all of those guys minus Rodgers. But still like 20 something teams passed on him. Mahomes was the 3rd QB taken in his draft.

Look at how Philly and San Fran (probably the two best rosters in the league) did it. They built the roster, then found the QB. It can be done in reverse. Trade that #1 pick for a haul IMO. If you trade it to a team in the top 3-5 you could find yourself picking first 3 years in a row.

If you are absolutely sold on a guy at the top. Pick him. Don’t pick him because you think you have to move on from Fields.
Logged
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
*

Reacher

  • *****
  • 40184
  • +1080/-1068
  • You should see my passer rating
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #702 on: December 04, 2023, 11:23:28 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 04, 2023, 11:10:21 AM
And to repeat something I’ve said a few times:

The worst case scenario here is we’re still arguing whether Fields is good enough a year from now. There can be zero excuses at that point.

If that happens we will regret not taking a shot at a top QB.  The top QB may not work out, of course, but it would be a mistake not to strike while that iron’s hot, especially for the sake of a guy who hasn’t shown enough consistency and is going to cost $100m+.

You’ve said to keep him AND pick a QB - if they do that I might be done.  That would be criminal mismanagement of resources.

I don’t see how. If Fields busts you dump him at the deadline and now Willliams or Maye is your starter and he’s had half a season to settle in. If Fields is great, you can easily trade the understudy for a nice return. He’ll still be a rookie.
Logged
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
*

Reacher

  • *****
  • 40184
  • +1080/-1068
  • You should see my passer rating
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #703 on: December 04, 2023, 11:23:54 AM »
Again, not saying I’d do it that way. But you could.
Logged
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
*

Reacher

  • *****
  • 40184
  • +1080/-1068
  • You should see my passer rating
    • View Profile
Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #704 on: December 04, 2023, 11:25:00 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 04, 2023, 11:05:54 AM
That’s fine.  I don’t think the line has been nearly as bad as you have consistently claimed - I think a lot of that is coming from you looking for a way to excuse Fields.

Watch the All22.
Logged
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
Pages: 1 ... 45 46 [47] 48 49 ... 419   Go Up
« previous next »