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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #540 on: December 03, 2023, 04:00:09 PM »
Trubisky didn’t preside over a complete tank job.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #541 on: December 03, 2023, 04:07:42 PM »
Trubisky didn’t preside over a complete tank job.

If Fields had come out and surprised everyone this year with winning play, leading the Bears to the playoffs, I doubt people would be quite as adamant about moving on from him.
 
This year wasn't supposed to be a tank job.  You talked all last year and offseason about the huge draft capital, all the cap space, the huge improvements we saw from Fields - just like you're doing right now about next season.  It has turned into a tank job to some degree but it's because the team has been bad, including Fields.

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« Reply #542 on: December 03, 2023, 04:16:37 PM »
If teams keep blatantly tanking, there will be a draft lottery in the NFL. There should be one already.
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« Reply #543 on: December 03, 2023, 04:29:46 PM »
If Fields had come out and surprised everyone this year with winning play, leading the Bears to the playoffs, I doubt people would be quite as adamant about moving on from him.
 
This year wasn't supposed to be a tank job.  You talked all last year and offseason about the huge draft capital, all the cap space, the huge improvements we saw from Fields - just like you're doing right now about next season.  It has turned into a tank job to some degree but it's because the team has been bad, including Fields.

Injuries haven’t helped. Including Justin missing a month when he looked to be turning a corner.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #544 on: December 03, 2023, 04:31:06 PM »
If teams keep blatantly tanking, there will be a draft lottery in the NFL. There should be one already.

Tanking is easy. Tanking for the first pick almost takes a perfect storm. Miami tried super hard to tank a few years ago and still drafted 5th I believe.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #545 on: December 03, 2023, 04:52:53 PM »
Tempo, humor me on this for a few minutes.  I want you to do a blind resume situation - you can guess who/what seasons these might be, but don't look them up.  All of these guys have been drafted since 2017.  A couple I assume you will recognize. 

There's no right or wrong answers here, but rank these seasons from best to worst - I will acknowledge that one of them (only one though) is intentionally kind of a trick:



1. 67.2% completion, 3.2% TD rate, 1.1% INT rate, 200.3 YPG.  92.5 passer rating, 62.9 QBR, 8.5% sack percentage.  44.3 rushing yards per game, .437 rushing TD per game.

2. 62.8% completion, 5.3% TD rate, 1.6% INT rate, 222.7 YPG.  95.9 passer rating, 65.5 QBR, 5.1% sack percentage.  10.3 rushing yards per game, .0625 rushing TD per game.

3. 67.3% completion, 5.3% TD rate, 2.4% INT rate, 256.8 YPG.  98.0 passer rating, 70.5 QBR, 8.2% sack percentage.  27.5 rushing yards per game, .466 rushing TD per game.

4. 60.4% completion, 5.3% TD rate, 3.5% INT rate, 149.5 YPG.  85.2 passer rating, 56.3 QBR, 14.7% sack percentage.  76.2 rushing yards per game, .533 rushing TD per game.

5. 64.4% completion, 4.2% TD rate, 3.4% INT rate, 240.2 YPG.  87.0 passer rating, 50.7 QBR, 9.0% sack percentage.  63.9 rushing yards per game, .166 rushing TD per game.

6. 67% completion, 5.4% TD rate, 2.7% INT rate, 205.5 YPG.  93.5 passer rating, 53.8 QBR, 5.7% sack percentage.  19.5 rushing yards per game, .1 rushing TD per game.

7. 64.4% completion, 5.4% TD rate, 2.7% INT rate, 198.4 YPG.  92.3 passer rating, 44.7 QBR, 11.6% sack percentage.  50 rushing yards per game, .125 rushing TD per game.

8. 72.7% completion, 3.5% TD rate, 1.8% INT rate, 208.5 YPG.  96.9 passer rating, 51.1 QBR, 10.4% sack percentage.  52.25 rushing yards per game, 1 rushing TD per game.

9. 67.6% completion, 4.2% TD rate, 2.5% INT rate, 223.6 YPG.  92.5 passer rating, 50.9 QBR, 5.1% sack percentage.  7.6 rushing yards per game, 0 rushing TD.

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« Reply #546 on: December 03, 2023, 04:54:33 PM »
Injuries haven’t helped. Including Justin missing a month when he looked to be turning a corner.

He was terrible in the half he played in the Minnesota game where he got hurt.  Terrible.

The entirety of the "turning a corner" narrative is based on a two game stretch against bad defenses - just like it was with Trubisky the last time we did this.

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« Reply #547 on: December 03, 2023, 04:55:29 PM »
Jesus that’s an encyclopedia of stats. I’ll look at them.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #548 on: December 03, 2023, 04:56:38 PM »
He was terrible in the half he played in the Minnesota game where he got hurt.  Terrible.

The entirety of the "turning a corner" narrative is based on a two game stretch against bad defenses - just like it was with Trubisky the last time we did this.

He had a bad half. If he finds a way to win that game (which was a close game when he went out) no one would really care.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #549 on: December 03, 2023, 04:58:46 PM »
I’m supposed to rank all 9 of them? Jesus. This could take a while.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #550 on: December 03, 2023, 04:59:44 PM »
Trying to look at all 9 of them which don’t even fit on my screen feels like I’m playing go fish.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #551 on: December 03, 2023, 05:02:39 PM »
He had a bad half. If he finds a way to win that game (which was a close game when he went out) no one would really care.

The problem is that the bad halves far outnumber the good ones so far, and the "turning the corner" narrative only works if the corner stays turned - in the 2.5 games he's played since those two games he's getting 6.3 YPA and has an 85.7 passer rating - he's back to average or below since the Broncos and Commanders game.  I've already pointed out that he has gotten 8 turnovers from his defense - 5 in the opponent's half - and turned them into 13 total points in that stretch.  Like if he'd "turned the corner" and looked great since, I'd feel differently about it - but he was terrible before that 2-game stretch, and has been average at best since.

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« Reply #552 on: December 03, 2023, 05:03:04 PM »
Trying to look at all 9 of them which don’t even fit on my screen feels like I’m playing go fish.

Sorry, yeah - probably a bad way to set it up.  Thought you might have fun with it though.

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« Reply #553 on: December 03, 2023, 05:03:32 PM »
I’m supposed to rank all 9 of them? Jesus. This could take a while.

I mean, you don't have to.  I thought you might have fun with it, that kind of sports overthinking seems to be your thing no?

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« Reply #554 on: December 03, 2023, 05:05:47 PM »
If you'd rather me just tell you what's what I can do that.