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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #495 on: December 03, 2023, 02:05:20 PM »
There is still a lot of cap space (2nd in the NFL)  and excellent draft capital you seem to be overlooking.
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« Reply #496 on: December 03, 2023, 02:09:07 PM »
If Warren cleans house and launches Poles and Eberflus, no way they roll it back with Fields.

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« Reply #497 on: December 03, 2023, 02:13:16 PM »
Quote from: jobu on December 03, 2023, 02:09:07 PM
If Warren cleans house and launches Poles and Eberflus, no way they roll it back with Fields.

I think that’s highly unlikely. Clickbait material IMO.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #498 on: December 03, 2023, 02:14:20 PM »
Quote from: jobu on December 03, 2023, 02:09:07 PM
If Warren cleans house and launches Poles and Eberflus, no way they roll it back with Fields.

And I would think that the incoming GM and HC would have a say there. I’ll be shocked if Poles is gone. Flus, he’s 50/50 IMO.
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« Reply #499 on: December 03, 2023, 02:16:29 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 03, 2023, 02:13:16 PM
I think that’s highly unlikely. Clickbait material IMO.

Never said how likely it was. Was just trying to contribute.

Carry on.
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« Reply #500 on: December 03, 2023, 02:17:16 PM »
Quote from: jobu on December 03, 2023, 02:16:29 PM
Never said how likely it was. Was just trying to contribute.

Carry on.

And I just offered my opinion. Carry on.
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« Reply #501 on: December 03, 2023, 02:18:49 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 03, 2023, 02:17:16 PM
And I just offered my opinion. Carry on.

The clickbait comment was horseshit. Should have expected it tho
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« Reply #502 on: December 03, 2023, 02:20:11 PM »
Quote from: jobu on December 03, 2023, 02:18:49 PM
The clickbait comment was horseshit. Should have expected it tho

Wut. Clickbait in the media. Not you.
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« Reply #503 on: December 03, 2023, 02:20:48 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 03, 2023, 01:44:42 PM
Yeah, I suppose I would. I also don’t think it’s a given Caleb Williams is an upgrade over Justin Fields. Especially given their draft profiles are remarkably similar. Only there were no potential maturity issues with Fields that I’m aware of.

Interestingly, there were pretty similar "unsourced rumors" of maturity and work ethic issues with Fields before the draft that likely caused his draft stock to slip - if it weren't for that sort of stuff, Fields might never have been on the Bears..  I would say to this point, those appear to have been completely unfounded - I haven't seen either of those things be issues with Fields at all thusfar.

https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/football/ohio-state-quarterback-justin-fields-has-work-ethic-reportedly-called-into-question

Not a huge McAfee or Orlovsky fan, but it'd be revisionist history to act like this was never a thing in Fields' draft process.

“One, I have heard that he is a last-guy-in, first-guy-out type of quarterback. Like, not the maniacal work ethic. I’ve even heard it compared to Justin Herbert, where it was like, dude, when Justin Herbert showed up, he was like a psychopath when it came to working and get ready for the draft. Or even at school, like, “Give me more, I want to work non-stop.” And I’ve heard that there are issues with Justin Fields’ work ethic.

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The second thing is … Where is his desire to go be a great quarterback? I think that there’s a desire to be a big-time athlete, from what is expressed to me, but where is his desire to be a great quarterback? And to be great, you gotta be willing to find the things that you are not good at and just freaking grind on them.”

Now, I think there are definitely some racial components involved here for example - it's probably not a coincidence that every QB I can think of that had this kind of pre-draft talk is an athletic black guy (Fields, Caleb, Lamar, RG3).  But I also don't think you can say that there weren't similar 'unsourced rumor' type questions about Fields' maturity when he entered the league that have turned out to be unfounded.


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« Reply #504 on: December 03, 2023, 02:20:58 PM »
Hilarious that Jobu always thinks I am attacking him. Victim.
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« Reply #505 on: December 03, 2023, 02:22:03 PM »
Like I would accuse Jobu of “clickbait.” Lol Clickbait means Internet hits.
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« Reply #506 on: December 03, 2023, 02:22:21 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 03, 2023, 02:05:20 PM
There is still a lot of cap space (2nd in the NFL)  and excellent draft capital you seem to be overlooking.

But none as valuable as the top pick.

If you think Justin Fields is your QB, there is no way to justify spending that top pick on a QB.  You already have one.

If you're not sure whether you already have one, especially after 40+ NFL starts, you almost certainly don't.

If they keep Fields but DON'T find a way to get him MHJ and instead pick another QB to sit behind him with the top pick, that'd be an even bigger mistake.
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« Reply #507 on: December 03, 2023, 02:25:32 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 03, 2023, 02:20:58 PM
Hilarious that Jobu always thinks I am attacking him. Victim.

Misunderstanding. My apologies.
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« Reply #508 on: December 03, 2023, 02:25:59 PM »
You could always trade Williams if Fields works out. You’d still get a very nice return. There’s more than one approach to the pick that can be defended. You can make a good case for all of it.
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« Reply #509 on: December 03, 2023, 02:26:26 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 03, 2023, 02:25:59 PM
You could always trade Williams if Fields works out. You’d still get a very nice return. There’s more than one approach to the pick that can be defended. You can make a good case for all of it.

You will trade him for cheap, though, if he's been sitting behind Fields all season.  You're literally just throwing value out the window, and wasting a very valuable cheap year of QB play.
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