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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #3450 on: January 02, 2024, 06:34:32 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 02, 2024, 05:50:57 PM
Half of Dak’s completions went to his “first read,” CeeDee Lamb. Better remove him from the MVP conversation.



I wonder if the MVP voters have heard about Fields leading the league in 'big time throws' this week?  I assume he's a top-5 candidate after that.

I did see a thing just earlier today - coming into this season, Fields had more bets placed on him to win MVP than Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Justin Herbert combined.  The only QB who had more than half as many bets on him was Hurts.  Thought that was nuts, and obviously showed how far the Fields fan club had to carry those goalposts this year.
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« Reply #3451 on: January 02, 2024, 06:34:35 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 02, 2024, 06:32:29 PM
I bet without looking it up you could not define "big time throws" as they use it there.  It's just a thing that confirmed your bias, like all the other drivel you post here.

sTaTz!  <-- this is what you say when people point out his mediocre ass passing performance, but hey - led the league in "big-time throws" in cold wintry conditions in one game!  Hard to argue with compelling evidence like that.

PAManJR shit.
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« Reply #3452 on: January 02, 2024, 06:36:08 PM »
The guy who loves stats complains that I used stats to “confirm my bias.”  Funny stuff.
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« Reply #3453 on: January 02, 2024, 06:36:30 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 02, 2024, 06:34:35 PM
PAManJR shit.

I'd say the fact that you didn't define 'big time throws' probably indicates I'm right. You don't even know what the stat means, but it confirms your bias so you rant about it.

Are his stats valid, or aren't they?  You seem to flip flop on that completely based on whether they're good or bad.  The stats overall paint a picture of a mediocre quarterback, but when I point that out you mock me for using the actual data to evidence my point.  But then Fields has a good game, and the stats are really important (for that game).
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« Reply #3454 on: January 02, 2024, 06:36:54 PM »
Someone doesn’t know how odds work, or entices gamblers.
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« Reply #3455 on: January 02, 2024, 06:37:37 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 02, 2024, 06:36:30 PM
I'd say the fact that you didn't define 'big time throws' probably indicates I'm right. You don't even know what the stat means, but it confirms your bias so you rant about it.

Are his stats valid, or aren't they?  You seem to flip flop on that completely based on whether they're good or bad.  The stats overall paint a picture of a mediocre quarterback, but when I point that out you mock me for using the actual data to evidence my point.  But then Fields has a good game, and the stats are really important (for that game).

I saw and read the definition. I don’t remember all of it to be quite honest, but just because I don’t know exactly what that means without having to look it up doesn’t mean he didn’t do it.
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« Reply #3456 on: January 02, 2024, 06:37:52 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 02, 2024, 06:36:08 PM
The guy who loves stats complains that I used stats to “confirm my bias.”  Funny stuff.

Yeah, I think the stats are valid whether they confirm or contradict my bias.  You're the one who mocks the data when it contradicts your bias and touts it when it confirms your bias.  Fields was really good this week, as I said the whole game and since.

He was also not very good the last 4-5 games, but you didn't say that once to my knowledge.  You made at least a couple dozen excuses for why it wasn't actually his fault instead.  It's very similar to what JJ is doing trying to discount Fields' great game this week because half his yards went to DJ.
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« Reply #3457 on: January 02, 2024, 06:38:13 PM »
It was something about accurate throws down field that much I remember. Hey also fuck you.
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« Reply #3458 on: January 02, 2024, 06:38:31 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 02, 2024, 06:38:13 PM
It was something about accurate throws down field that much I remember. Hey also fuck you.

Chef's kiss here.
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« Reply #3459 on: January 02, 2024, 06:39:55 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 02, 2024, 06:37:37 PM
I saw and read the definition. I don’t remember all of it to be quite honest, but just because I don’t know exactly what that means without having to look it up doesn’t mean he didn’t do it.

I never said he didn't do it.  He did, I've been pretty consistent in saying he was great this week despite your weird whining about how I pointed out one bad throw he made (and that they had been rare).

It's just funny to watch you - the guy who will mock anyone who uses stats to make their argument (if you don't agree with the argument) - bring up this random stat you can't define to tout Fields' game this week.
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« Reply #3460 on: January 02, 2024, 06:42:04 PM »
The guy who claims to always want more knowledge and information and less bias is mad that I watched the All22 analysis from multiple former NFL quarterbacks this year and came away with different conclusions than he did.
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« Reply #3461 on: January 02, 2024, 06:43:40 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 02, 2024, 06:39:55 PM
I never said he didn't do it.  He did, I've been pretty consistent in saying he was great this week despite your weird whining about how I pointed out one bad throw he made (and that they had been rare).

It's just funny to watch you - the guy who will mock anyone who uses stats to make their argument (if you don't agree with the argument) - bring up this random stat you can't define to tout Fields' game this week.

Again, just odd that a guy who can’t throw would lead the league in BTTs (can you define it?!) in less than optimal conditions.
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« Reply #3462 on: January 02, 2024, 06:45:12 PM »
I also don’t know much about rocket science, but I can tell when a rocket has done what it’s supposed to.
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« Reply #3463 on: January 02, 2024, 06:46:11 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 02, 2024, 06:43:40 PM
Again, just odd that a guy who can’t throw would lead the league in BTTs (can you define it?!) in less than optimal conditions.

No, but I also wouldn't use that stat to make my point.  If I cited Caleb Williams' 'big time throw' stats you would put that shit in your signature.

If you're really willing to come here and pretend I have said he just "can't throw" and ignore that I have said the exact same thing since the beginning of this discussion about being able to consistently move the ball as a passer, why would I continue to engage?  You obviously know I never said that at all and don't care, you still typed it out and argued against it.

He was great this week.

This season overall, he has been mediocre as hell and has continued to be very inconsistent especially as a passer - the one thing we needed to see from him to justify keeping him.

Both things are true.
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« Reply #3464 on: January 02, 2024, 06:49:40 PM »
And again, it's especially frustrating because when Fields is great, I come here and acknowledge that he was great.

But when he's mediocre or worse, you simply refuse to admit it no matter how obvious it was.  You make a million excuses for why, how he wasn't ACTUALLY mediocre, it was everyone else's fault.
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