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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #3465 on: January 02, 2024, 06:51:08 PM »
I’ve never once doubted that Caleb Williams can throw the ball really well. So don’t know where that accusation comes from.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3466 on: January 02, 2024, 06:51:32 PM »
I even said I was impressed by his throwing a few days ago.
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« Reply #3467 on: January 02, 2024, 06:51:51 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 02, 2024, 06:51:08 PM
I’ve never once doubted that Caleb Williams can throw the ball really well. So don’t know where that accusation comes from.

If you want me to believe that I could come here and cite Caleb's "big throw" numbers and you wouldn't make fun of me, I don't even know what to say.  That's obviously laughable.
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« Reply #3468 on: January 02, 2024, 06:52:03 PM »
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« Reply #3469 on: January 02, 2024, 06:52:48 PM »
I have zero doubt Caleb has a fantastic arm.
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« Reply #3470 on: January 02, 2024, 06:55:51 PM »
It’s not Caleb’s arm that concerns me. Hell, it’s not even mostly Caleb. It’s that I don’t think the Bears have to move on from Fields. Caleb Williams as far as I know is a terrific prospect. I partially make fun of him because I know it will annoy you, and I have to endure the Fields slander (not necessarily all from you by a longshot), but I hear it every day.
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« Reply #3471 on: January 02, 2024, 06:58:17 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 02, 2024, 06:49:40 PM
And again, it's especially frustrating because when Fields is great, I come here and acknowledge that he was great.

But when he's mediocre or worse, you simply refuse to admit it no matter how obvious it was.  You make a million excuses for why, how he wasn't ACTUALLY mediocre, it was everyone else's fault.

You also go out of your way to point out every mistake (or flaw) or “possible” mistake. Even attempting to lay most of the blame on him for 3 Falcons being in his face in 1.5 seconds.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3472 on: January 02, 2024, 06:59:03 PM »
I think at the core of our disagreements, is that I do not consider things like "pointing out when he makes a mistake" or "citing his statistics and production" are "slander".  You are more defensive of Fields than I've ever seen someone be about a particular athlete (especially one that has, to date, not actually had very much success).

Like you mocked me for the Trubisky stuff for years, and you're miles more dug in on Fields than I was on Trubisky.
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« Reply #3473 on: January 02, 2024, 06:59:52 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 02, 2024, 06:59:03 PM
I think at the core of our disagreements, is that I do not consider things like "pointing out when he makes a mistake" or "citing his statistics and production" are "slander".  You are more defensive of Fields than I've ever seen someone be about a particular athlete (especially one that has, to date, not actually had very much success).

Like you mocked me for the Trubisky stuff for years, and you're miles more dug in on Fields than I was on Trubisky.

Yeah, I don’t see it that way exactly.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3474 on: January 02, 2024, 07:00:59 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 02, 2024, 06:58:17 PM
You also go out of your way to point out every mistake (or flaw) or “possible” mistake. Even attempting to lay most of the blame on him for 3 Falcons being in his face in 1.5 seconds.

Nope, I didn't do that.

I pointed out - as the former pro OT calling the game did - that there was a protection miscommunication when Fields shifted the scheme at the line.  I did not know whether it was Fields or the OL that fucked up, nor did I accuse one of them or the other of fucking up.  You are just EXTREMELY defensive of Fields.

I am far, far more complimentary of Fields when he plays well than you are critical when he plays poorly.  It's not remotely close.
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« Reply #3475 on: January 02, 2024, 07:03:55 PM »
Another example of your weird defensiveness of Fields:

At one point he made a bad throw, and you pointed it out calling it "terrible".  I responded by saying yeah, but they've been rare enough.

Then a few plays later he made an unreal escape.  I said "Another unreal escape from Fields".

Then you said something out and I said "that was the bad and the good of Fields back to back" - I didn't expect that to be a controversial statement whatsoever, after all you'd already called the throw "terrible" and I'd defended him; and I'd already lauded the unreal escape he'd made.  But no, you went on full defense mode about how I "can't even acknowledge the great play he made without also pointing out the bad one," and just totally ignored that I HAD acknowledged the great play he made without pointing out the bad one.

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« Reply #3476 on: January 02, 2024, 07:04:13 PM »
After a really good play you pointed out “we just saw the good and the bad,” perhaps after the errant throw to Scott? You couch almost every positive thing you say with a caveat.
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« Reply #3477 on: January 02, 2024, 07:06:38 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 02, 2024, 07:04:13 PM
After a really good play you pointed out “we just saw the good and the bad,” perhaps after the errant throw to Scott? You couch almost every positive thing you say with a caveat.

You simply ignored that I had already lauded the amazing play he made without saying shit about the bad throw, other than to defend him when you called the throw 'terrible' because they'd been rare.  And look, you're still ignoring it now.

Like straight up, the ONLY way to make a controversy out of my comment there is to be the most weirdly defensive dude ever.  It was not remotely controversial - he made a bad throw, and then an amazing escape back to back.  What's the controversy?
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« Reply #3478 on: January 02, 2024, 07:08:00 PM »
This is me yesterday calling out Brian Baldinger for his reversal on Fields/Williams (I guess Baldy has seen the progress some here insist hasn’t happened?)?

I am trying to have honest discussion here.

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« Reply #3479 on: January 02, 2024, 07:09:12 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 02, 2024, 06:49:40 PM
And again, it's especially frustrating because when Fields is great, I come here and acknowledge that he was great.

But when he's mediocre or worse, you simply refuse to admit it no matter how obvious it was.  You make a million excuses for why, how he wasn't ACTUALLY mediocre, it was everyone else's fault.

Again, I’m sure I could find multiple posts in which your “praise” is couched with some kind of caveat.
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