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WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?

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WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« on: September 20, 2020, 12:52:18 AM »
Should this be a separate wtf is up SCOTUS thread?  It is going to be fucking interesting.  It looks like lose/lose/lose for Trump and the weasels McConnell and Graham. OK, maybe they have an out?  Obama was a lame duck? Wait, what was that about a Biden rule? A reference to 1992? Was George H. W. Bush a two President? 

Meanwhile Grassley and Murkowski have recently reaffirmed. Grassley this summer, Murkowski days ago. Cory Gardner is up for reelection, behind in the polls, and is another past 'Biden rule' advocate. Susan Collins is 12 down in the Quinnipiac and is already saying the November winner should pick the replacement. Then there is Mitt Romney. Are there 4 no votes?

Meanwhile, besides Collins and Gardner, 11 other Republican Senate seats are now considered vulnerable, including Graham's. Dems have 2 vulnerable seats. If Dems gain 4, they win control of the Senate.   

If Trump & McConnell ram through a hard right replacement; that should motivate opposition turnout. Even if Trump ekes out an electoral college victory, he might still lose the Senate.

It might be wiser to do nothing, or even nominate a female version of Merrick Garland. Except that is not gonna fire up the Trumpsters.

Republicans are thinking it's best to motivate their own base. Plus, they'll need a vote to steal the election and some Senate seats.  My guess is he nominates a hard right anti-abortion woman and McConnell forces a vote timed to affect the election.     
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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2020, 12:53:17 AM »

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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2020, 03:38:27 AM »
Then there is Mitt Romney. Are there 4 no votes?   

I think Romney would be pleased to vote for a traditional conservative.  If his pro-life presidential run was the con, and his pro-choice Massachusetts  governing was the truth, I'd be surprised. But either way, anybody who flips on that issue for a perceived electoral advantage (like Illinois Treasurer Mike Frerichs) is a cunt.

I think you're right that this situation is terrible for Trump, and I doubt he realizes it.

If Trump installs a sixth conservative, he's useless to the anti-choicers. They held their nose and pulled the lever so they could get judges. They got judges. They don't need him anymore.

If Trump makes it an election issue, i.e. vote to end abortion, he could make the race more interesting in the papist states. It prolly wouldn't help in Arizona, though.  And while Penn and Ohio have a shitload of papists, I don't know about Michigan and Wisconsin.

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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2020, 05:56:39 PM »
I am a fan of the state north of Ohio, and I dislike the appellation "Michigan."

It's Fart's board, and he can add these quirky word swaps if he wants. I'll still enjoy visiting Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor.

Lansing ... eh.

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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2020, 06:02:24 PM »
2016, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”
2018, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”
2016, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”
2016, Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”
2016, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”
2016, Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”
2016, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”
2016, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”
2016, Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”
2016, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”
2016, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”
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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2020, 07:30:22 PM »
I am a fan of the state north of Ohio, and I dislike the appellation "Fucking scUM."

It's Fart's board, and he can add these quirky word swaps if he wants. I'll still enjoy visiting Kalamazoo and Ann Arbor.

Lansing ... eh.

I made a bunch of Easter eggs when I created the site and then retired them once they’d been found.

Every time I see this one pop up again I think about removing it but ultimately decide not to.

It’ll go, someday. You never had any problem getting around the filters at OGHQ.
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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2020, 04:41:28 PM »
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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2020, 10:28:15 AM »
You never had any problem getting around the filters at OGHQ.

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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2020, 06:15:37 PM »
Mishagain

And at some point we're finally going to change the incredibly stupid way we handle high court vacancies, so if we're getting pushed in that direction, fantastic.

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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2020, 10:51:58 PM »
What’s the right way? Honestly curious.
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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2020, 01:28:15 AM »
And at some point we're finally going to change the incredibly stupid way we handle high court vacancies, so if we're getting pushed in that direction, fantastic.

Apart from the theocracy problem, which is really just Alito and potentially Coney Barrett, I can't think of GOP constitutional jurisprudence that frightens me. What issues should concern me?

I don't see the ACA being overturned, but like everyone else, I hate the ACA. I don't think Citizens United was wrong so much as I think personhood for corporations is wrong (and that's certainly a problem). I'm not as bothered by right-to-work as I am by closed-shop. I think Critical Race Theory is bonkers ideological drivel.

What are the other issues?

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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2020, 01:40:29 AM »
What’s the right way? Honestly curious.
A college of professional colleagues might be slightly less corrupt, and probably better informed, than letting Opus Dei pick them all, which seems to be the current system.

I'm still disappointed with the Democrats' Ivy addiction.

https://www.smilepolitely.com/opinion/no_ivy_for_scotus/

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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2020, 01:47:56 AM »
Oh look. An other one of your eggs.

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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2020, 05:00:19 PM »
Anyone been paying any attention to this?
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Re: WTF is up with the SCOTUS today?
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2020, 05:38:27 PM »
I thought she handled herself very well.
I'm not sure I understand the uproar. If the Dems have the White House and the Senate they'll nominate and approve, while the Republicans cry foul, just like the Republicans are doing now.