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Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!

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Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« on: October 24, 2023, 10:25:00 AM »
So, to recap for the Board's Bielema Apologists. Since having 2 home games last year with a chance to wrap up the B1G West:

11/5/22    MSU @ home  L 23-15 (MSU's only road win of the season)
11/12/22  Purdue @ home L 31-24 (Purdue coach fired, steals Illini DC)
11/19/22  Michigan L 19-17 (Michigan probably should have stole more signs)
11/26/22  NU W 41-3 (NU sucked ass)
1/2/23      Miss State L 19-10 (MSU's coach died before the game)

9/2/23      Toledo @home W 30-28 (scrapped by)
9/8/23      Kansas L 34-23 (got asses whipped on D)
9/16/23    Penn State @ home L 30-13 (IL a program even Franklin can beat)
9/23/23    Florida Atlantic @ home W 23-17 (underwhelming victory)
9/30/23    Purdue L 44-19 (embarrassing loss to an equally shit team)
10/6/23    Nebraska L 20-7 (was not as close as the score indicated)
10/14/23   Maryland W 27 -24 (Locksley proving his incompetency)
10/21/23   Wisconsin @ home 25-21 (WI has no QB and still wins)

Yes, Bielema has the program on the upswing.  :o
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2023, 12:31:59 PM »
The year before Bielema came we weren’t even competitive in most games. We’ve had entire seasons we got worked over. Yeah this team has taken a bigger step back after losing tons of pro quality talent than what we wanted in year three, but let’s not forget where we came from either.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2023, 01:26:26 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 24, 2023, 12:31:59 PM
The year before Bielema came we weren’t even competitive in most games. We’ve had entire seasons we got worked over. Yeah this team has taken a bigger step back after losing tons of pro quality talent than what we wanted in year three, but let’s not forget where we came from either.

We came from a January bowl game.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2023, 02:31:48 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 24, 2023, 01:26:26 PM
We came from a January bowl game.

That one should leave a mark.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2023, 02:34:31 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 24, 2023, 12:31:59 PM
The year before Bielema came we weren’t even competitive in most games. We’ve had entire seasons we got worked over. Yeah this team has taken a bigger step back after losing tons of pro quality talent than what we wanted in year three, but let’s not forget where we came from either.

This is post-Weber Underachiever level justification excuse making...Which is why Illinois never gets anywhere in any sport that matters.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2023, 03:04:17 PM »
I don’t think you angrily typing on HQ2 is really holding the program or Bielema accountable. Illinois football is a coaching graveyard. Probably shouldn’t write a proven winner off after one disappointing season one year removed from easily our best season in 15 years.

And the team, despite not winning, has at least been competitive. That’s more than we can say for a lot of seasons of Illinois football.

If y’all want to live in some fantasy land where Illinois is magically going to shake off decades of bottom dwelling in a few short years, go right on ahead.

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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2023, 03:38:00 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 24, 2023, 03:04:17 PM
I don’t think you angrily typing on HQ2 is really holding the program or Bielema accountable. Illinois football is a coaching graveyard. Probably shouldn’t write a proven winner off after one disappointing season one year removed from easily our best season in 15 years.

And the team, despite not winning, has at least been competitive. That’s more than we can say for a lot of seasons of Illinois football.

If y’all want to live in some fantasy land where Illinois is magically going to shake off decades of bottom dwelling in a few short years, go right on ahead.

The problem, as we have seen, is that there are far too many Illini fans who buy the same tripe you are peddling. We lived through the Weber crap for crying out loud. It is a graveyard because people just accept it.

How is he a proven winner? Aside from Wisconsin, which was and is still living off Barry Alvarez, he has not done much and got run out of Arkansas. He certainly has not looked like much of winner in the past 11 months, losing to Mel Tucker, who outcoached him while probably beating off on the sidelines....

It is year freakin' 3. The program has gone backwards with Lovie's guys leaving. And he is getting his assed whipped in recruiting, even by Purdue, despite the NIL money.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2023, 03:42:05 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 24, 2023, 02:31:48 PM
That one should leave a mark.

He gets to brag about the rare successes, but still runs to the comfort of low expectations when things (as they so often do) don’t go well.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2023, 03:43:56 PM »
“Proven winner” does seem like a stretch. Proven “mostly competent” sounds more accurate.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2023, 03:47:33 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 24, 2023, 03:38:00 PM
The problem, as we have seen, is that there are far too many Illini fans who buy the same tripe you are peddling. We lived through the Weber crap for crying out loud. It is a graveyard because people just accept it.

How is he a proven winner? Aside from Wisconsin, which was and is still living off Barry Alvarez, he has not done much and got run out of Arkansas. He certainly has not looked like much of winner in the past 11 months, losing to Mel Tucker, who outcoached him while probably beating off on the sidelines....

It is year freakin' 3. The program has gone backwards with Lovie's guys leaving. And he is getting his assed whipped in recruiting, even by Purdue, despite the NIL money.

Probably no one is living off the legacy of Barry Alvarez more than Bret Bielema. Might not be a stretch to say he’s the Rudy Giuliani/Mayor of 9/11 coach of college football.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2023, 03:56:45 PM »
Which B1G coaches have the most B1G titles? Beliema’s all came years after Alvarez retired from coaching. Did he benefit from Barry? Of course he did.

Illinois’ lack of success in football has nothing to do with fans accepting mediocrity. It’s literally one of the dumbest sports takes of all time.

When Illinois is bad, fans don’t show up, donors threaten to quit donating and end up ponying up money to buy out bad coaches like Weber, Groce, Lovie, etc. Donors (fans!) have stepped up to pay top 10 salary for the basketball staff and very respectable football salaries relative to our standing.

What Illinois really needs to be successful is giant bags of NIL money, so get aligned with ICON and start donating early and often.

And to Tempo’s point, yes, Illinois revenue athletics over the last few years have been and are in a MUCH better place than the Chicago Bears. Golf, tennis, VB, and now women’s BB are pretty solid, too. If there’s anyone here with low expectations, it’s Tempo.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2023, 04:09:51 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 24, 2023, 03:04:17 PM
I don’t think you angrily typing on HQ2 is really holding the program or Bielema accountable. Illinois football is a coaching graveyard. Probably shouldn’t write a proven winner off after one disappointing season one year removed from easily our best season in 15 years.

And the team, despite not winning, has at least been competitive. That’s more than we can say for a lot of seasons of Illinois football.

If y’all want to live in some fantasy land where Illinois is magically going to shake off decades of bottom dwelling in a few short years, go right on ahead.

I’m gonna have to disagree with you there.

Kansas (Let’s not pretend the final score was indicative of a close game)
Purdue (2nd half was a dumpster fire)
Penn St (Again not a particularly close one)
Nebraska (Never really felt like they had a chance after the goal line fail despite all the Nebraska miscues)

Even their wins against cupcakes felt like going in for a root canal.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2023, 04:54:28 PM »
Quote from: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2023, 04:09:51 PM
I’m gonna have to disagree with you there.

Kansas(Let’s not pretend the final score was indicative of a close game)

11 point game (and what appeared to be some momentum) with 8 mins left?

Purdue (2nd half was a dumpster fire)

Yes

Penn St (Again not a particularly close one)

One score game late in first half (16-7 going into half) with defense playing their asses off to offset the terrible turnovers in our own territory against a legit top 10 team is a relatively good spot for Illinois football. Defense wore down in second half when O couldn’t stay on the field.

Nebraska (Never really felt like they had a chance after the goal line fail despite all the Nebraska miscues)

For Illinois, losing by two scores or less is pretty competitive in my book, as is only giving up 20 points. I still clearly remember losing 63-0 to Iowa at home (and many others like it) so I try to have some perspective.

Even their wins against cupcakes felt like going in for a root canal.

Without a doubt.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2023, 05:12:28 PM »
It’s true, when it comes to Illinois athletics, I do have low expectations. Virtually no expectations, really.
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Re: Hey Tempo! The Illini have a bye week! No game 10/27-28!
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2023, 05:14:03 PM »
Illinois athletics have been much less aggravating since I’ve taken the “no expectations” approach.
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