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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1845 on: December 22, 2022, 08:39:34 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 08:32:02 PM
I’ve never ever once demanded that you call him a superstar. Please show me once where I’ve asked that of you. All I have ever asked is that you acknowledge he’s improving (and yes, he’s getting better as a passer) and that the level of “help” he gets should be embarrassing to the Chicago Bears. Literally no quarterback in the NFL has been set up for failure to the level that Justin Fields has. Yet he’s rising above it (but where are the wins?! Amirite?!).

I cannot help it if you can't comprehend the difference between Fields running appx. 36% of the time versus Allen running appx. 17% of the time and think the difference in attention is due to race.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1846 on: December 22, 2022, 08:41:51 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 08:39:09 PM
You out here demanding that a 2nd year quarterback lead a roster totally bereft of adequate NFL talent to “wins” is beyond absurd. Demanding that he put up Pro-Bowl caliber passing stats is also pretty absurd. He was one of 5 1st round QBs last year, and was outperforming all od them until about 3 weeks ago. Lawrence finally living up to his billing, but he’s in a better situation as well.

I am demanding that he look like he knows how to be an NFL QB and not a Wingback. I understand that the team sucks. Problem is that he completely sucked at being a QB when running an NFL offense.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1847 on: December 22, 2022, 08:45:10 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:41:51 PM
I am demanding that he look like he knows how to be an NFL QB and not a Wingback. I understand that the team sucks. Problem is that he completely sucked at being a QB when running an NFL offense.

And yet you say this knowing the line can’t pass block and the receivers are mostly practice squad caliber. That’s not to say he wasn’t bad on his own at times. Yet qualified experts say they see the growth in his game yet you are smarter than they are.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1848 on: December 22, 2022, 08:46:52 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:41:51 PM
I am demanding that he look like he knows how to be an NFL QB and not a Wingback. I understand that the team sucks. Problem is that he completely sucked at being a QB when running an NFL offense.

You “understand that the team sucks,” yet throw him under the bus (not the rest of the team or the coaches) when they lose. You DEMAND that he overcome the worst situation for a starting QB in the NFL.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1849 on: December 22, 2022, 08:48:29 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:39:34 PM
I cannot help it if you can't comprehend the difference between Fields running appx. 36% of the time versus Allen running appx. 17% of the time and think the difference in attention is due to race.

Again, both a run a lot. I’d argue Allen runs more recklessly. Both are running quarterbacks. And for the 40th time, Fields doesn’t call the plays.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1850 on: December 22, 2022, 08:51:43 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 08:45:10 PM
And yet you say this knowing the line can’t pass block and the receivers are mostly practice squad caliber. That’s not to say he wasn’t bad on his own at times. Yet qualified experts say they see the growth in his game yet you are smarter than they are.

Yes, because there are things like footwork, reading defenses, throwing the fucking ball in the flat, pocket presence keeping your eyes downfield when they actually have time, that an average NFL QB should be able to do even if they or the other players don't execute plays properly.

Qualified experts? Like Trent Dilfer? Parkins?

Hopefully the kid gets some good coaching over the summer. He certainly did not have it at OSU. Hopefully he works his ass off this summer. If he doesn't, he'll be one of many 1st round QB draft picks that could not produce despite the opinions of qualified experts.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1851 on: December 22, 2022, 08:52:51 PM »
Anybody who watches the Bills and says “Oh yeah, Allen, he’s pretty much a straight pocket passer” is fucking kidding themselves. And for the 41st time. Fields doesn’t call the plays.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1852 on: December 22, 2022, 08:54:14 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 08:46:52 PM
You “understand that the team sucks,” yet throw him under the bus (not the rest of the team or the coaches) when they lose. You DEMAND that he overcome the worst situation for a starting QB in the NFL.

Yeah, demanding that he  not fling the ball up for grabs in the 4th quarter against the Lion and get intercepted was a stretch on my part.

It is amazing you can make it through the day.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1853 on: December 22, 2022, 08:56:45 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 08:52:51 PM
Anybody who watches the Bills and says “Oh yeah, Allen, he’s pretty much a straight pocket passer” is fucking kidding themselves. And for the 41st time. Fields doesn’t call the plays.

And for the 400th time,  we know why they are calling the plays the way they are calling the plays: the kid can't pass. He showed that in the 1st half or so of the season.

Again, it is amazing that you can make it through the day.

You didn't even know Biden executed an order student loan relief when bitching that he had not done anything. Maybe you should pay attention to the qualified experts on politics.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1854 on: December 22, 2022, 09:06:50 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:54:14 PM
Yeah, demanding that he  not fling the ball up for grabs in the 4th quarter against the Lion and get intercepted was a stretch on my part.

It is amazing you can make it through the day.

This is akin to missing a couple too many free-throws in the first game of the year and saying “this will come back to haunt them.”

And you ignore the electrifying play he made like two plays later to give them the lead back. Which the defense relinquished. You are pathetic. Just admit that you’re rooting for him to fail.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1855 on: December 22, 2022, 09:07:48 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:56:45 PM
And for the 400th time,  we know why they are calling the plays the way they are calling the plays: the kid can't pass. He showed that in the 1st half or so of the season.

Again, it is amazing that you can make it through the day.

You didn't even know Biden executed an order student loan relief when bitching that he had not done anything. Maybe you should pay attention to the qualified experts on politics.

He did 10k. Next to nothing. He did the minimal, which is standard for the corporate Democrats you shill for.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1856 on: December 22, 2022, 09:10:54 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 09:06:50 PM
This is akin to missing a couple too many free-throws in the first game of the year and saying “this will come back to haunt them.”

And you ignore the electrifying play he made like two plays later to give them the lead back. Which the defense relinquished. You are pathetic. Just admit that you’re rooting for him to fail.

No it isn't. He can't make really dumb plays like that.

And you saying be does not call the plays is completely dumb. There is a reason they are calling runs. Sorry you have problems with that reality.

Hopefully he gets better because he will be the starter for 2 to 3 more years.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1857 on: December 22, 2022, 09:11:18 PM »
Of course he went for the minimum. It’s what minimum Joe does.

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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1858 on: December 22, 2022, 09:11:56 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 09:07:48 PM
He did 10k. Next to nothing. He did the minimal, which is standard for the corporate Democrats you shill for.

Hahaha. Pay your fucking loans, Tempo.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1859 on: December 22, 2022, 09:12:06 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 09:10:54 PM
No it isn't. He can't make really dumb plays like that.

And you saying be does not call the plays is completely dumb. There is a reason they are calling runs. Sorry you have problems with that reality.

Hopefully he gets better because he will be the starter for 2 to 3 more years.

Dude. I saw Tom Brady lose a game because he forgot what down it was. Quarterbacks are going to make mistakes.
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