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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: ThePAMan on June 15, 2023, 01:16:41 PM
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As I am seeing things online that The Wingback is having difficulties throwing the ball 7 on 7 against the Bear D, including a The Score personality allegedly saying he is disappointed so far in the short and medium throws, figured we may as well get a start on this.
Can the Bear get Caleb? Any predictions on the current unknown who will be the hot QB commodity in the 2024 NFL Draft?
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Bears do it again, trade up to get Drake Mayne
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As I am seeing things online that The Wingback is having difficulties throwing the ball 7 on 7 against the Bear D, including a The Score personality allegedly saying he is disappointed so far in the short and medium throws, figured we may as well get a start on this.
Can the Bear get Caleb? Any predictions on the current unknown who will be the hot QB commodity in the 2024 NFL Draft?
Saw PAMan commenting on this from a million miles away. I was surprised it took till this afternoon, though.
Jeff Joniak said Fields was 15 for 18 yesterday. PAMan also conveniently left out that the reporter who reported this said Fields looked really good for most of two weeks and has built up a great report with DJ Moore. Still working on consistency with other receivers (keep in mind Claypool and Mooney are not practicing). Same reporter also mentioned that the defense has looked sharp and that the offense is running on a limited playbook and the defense is probably taking advantage of that (seeing repetitive plays).
Also, Fields was reportedly sharp today. TrollMan gonna troll.
https://twitter.com/dave_bfr/status/1669481891714482184?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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https://twitter.com/herbhoward411/status/1669377448738160643?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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https://twitter.com/markgrotesports/status/1669377906433314816?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Even more impressive when not in slow mo.
https://twitter.com/bearsnationchi/status/1669477232354418689?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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This is the draft thread. Who you got for the 2024 draft?
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Tank and draft Williams. His rookie contract would be cheaper than the completely developed NFL QB Fields will command. And Fields goes to the Vikes to replace Cousins.
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This is the draft thread. Who you got for the 2024 draft?
Let me see how things look this year, and where they’re drafting first…
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Tank and draft Williams. His rookie contract would be cheaper than the completely developed NFL QB Fields will command. And Fields goes to the Vikes to replace Cousins.
Lolololololololololol
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Let me see how things look this year, and where they’re drafting first…
Think JJ McCarthy will get his act together and have a breakout season?
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If you know Fields isn’t the guy after this season, you absolutely trade him for whatever you can get and draft a new QB. No way you give him a new contract if he doesn’t improve drastically throwing the ball.
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Think JJ McCarthy will get his act together and have a breakout season?
How would I know? I don’t even watch college football anymore. Haven’t in 15 years.
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How would I know? I don’t even watch college football anymore. Haven’t in 15 years.
What is The Twitter saying about him?
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How would I know? I don’t even watch college football anymore. Haven’t in 15 years.
Then why were you, initially, upset with the Bear draft? Just the positions they took? You don't know who any of these guys are.
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If you know Fields isn’t the guy after this season, you absolutely trade him for whatever you can get and draft a new QB. No way you give him a new contract if he doesn’t improve drastically throwing the ball.
Judge Judy, appreciate the post, but let's stick to the draft and who may be dark horse guys taken.
Care to comment on McCarthy? Anyone else out there you see as a dark horse top draft pick for the Bear?
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Judge Judy, appreciate the post, but let's stick to the draft and who may be dark horse guys taken.
Care to comment on McCarthy? Anyone else out there you see as a dark horse top draft pick for the Bear?
Oh my bad.
No I don’t like McCarthy. If Fields doesn’t work out this year and you can’t get Williams, I don’t know about Maye. Trubiskyish and risky written all over it/him. Even if Williams doesn’t work out, he’s considered a “can’t-miss QB.” Price too high, roll with Fields for the final year of his contract (it’s not after this year is it?) and shoot for 2025 while filling other holes in the roster.
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Oh my bad.
No I don’t like McCarthy. If Fields doesn’t work out this year and you can’t get Williams, I don’t know about Maye. Trubiskyish and risky written all over it/him. Even if Williams doesn’t work out, he’s considered a “can’t-miss QB.” Price too high, roll with Fields for the final year of his contract (it’s not after this year is it?) and shoot for 2025 while filling other holes in the roster.
What do you not like about McCarthy? Don't know much about him other than he is a local kid. Obviously saw him against the Illini last year. Pretty sure he lit up tO$U. For whatever that is worth. I read somewhere that he was someone who seemingly has gotten better every step of the way.
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What do you not like about McCarthy? Don't know much about him other than he is a local kid. Obviously saw him against the Illini last year. Pretty sure he lit up tO$U. For whatever that is worth. I read somewhere that he was someone who seemingly has gotten better every step of the way.
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Let’s see how he does this year. I don’t like when QB’s aren’t good at processing reads/blitzes/etc…
That’s probably one of the top things you want a QB to be able to do. Look at all the successful ones and that’s what you see.
I do agree he has a lot of upside and has the size too. Just wanna see another year I guess.
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Let’s see how he does this year. I don’t like when QB’s aren’t good at processing reads/blitzes/etc…
That’s probably one of the top things you want a QB to be able to do. Look at all the successful ones and that’s what you see.
Wow. Who do those scouts like?
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Wow. Who do those scouts like?
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/positions/QB/1/2024
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Drake Maye has been compared to Robert Griffith III by some scouts. Which who knows what that even means due to his career-ending injury and never getting to see what he might’ve been.
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Drake Maye has been compared to Robert Griffith III by some scouts. Which who knows what that even means due to his career-ending injury and never getting to see what he might’ve been.
Pennix has reminded me of Randall Cunningham in that his throwing motion just looks very effortless. If that makes any sense.
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Pennix has reminded me of Randall Cunningham in that his throwing motion just looks very effortless. If that makes any sense.
I’d steer away from Penix Jr just due to the injury problems, age, and is a 5th-year Senior with one healthy/good season. If he was a Sophomore that was healthy he would probably be rated higher than Williams.
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What is The Twitter saying about him?
How the fuck would I know?
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How the fuck would I know?
You are Mr. The Twitter here.
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I’d steer away from Penix Jr just due to the injury problems, age, and is a 5th-year Senior with one healthy/good season. If he was a Sophomore that was healthy he would probably be rated higher than Williams.
Definitely something to watch for this upcoming season.
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Then why were you, initially, upset with the Bear draft? Just the positions they took? You don't know who any of these guys are.
I don’t remember being “upset” with the Bear draft. I only questioned the return for the 10th pick. And I also questioned the Roschon Johnson pick, but it’s a 4th rounder so not a big deal. Plus after reading the reviews on Johnson I felt better about it after the fact.
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You are Mr. The Twitter here.
That doesn’t mean I keep up on JJ McCarthy tweets.
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Then why were you, initially, upset with the Bear draft? Just the positions they took? You don't know who any of these guys are.
I know how to read a scouting report.
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In fact, I’m more confident in my ability to read a scouting report than I am in my ability to scout players…
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I don’t remember being “upset” with the Bear draft. I only questioned the return for the 10th pick. And I also questioned the Roschon Johnson pick, but it’s a 4th rounder so not a big deal. Plus after reading the reviews on Johnson I felt better about it after the fact.
I am violating my own instructions here, but you were initially upset that they did not get "difference makers," including the RB you wanted. You were walked off the ledge by reminders of their needs on both lines, well, basically everywhere. You seemed to suffer akin to post-partum depression. The draft was your baby. It occurred. And then you were a little adrift. You did get over it.
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That doesn’t mean I keep up on JJ McCarthy tweets.
Can you start?
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In fact, I’m more confident in my ability to read a scouting report than I am in my ability to scout players…
No "eye tests" for the 2024 draft for you, apparently.
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I am violating my own instructions here, but you were initially upset that they did not get "difference makers,"
Perhaps you could back that claim up with a post or two of mine.
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No "eye tests" for the 2024 draft for you, apparently.
Yes, as stated, I don’t watch college football. I usually even skip the championship game these years.
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Can you start?
No.
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I’m not surprised the Bears traded out of Carter. I am surprised they did it for next to nothing.
Thought I’d be a lot more fired up after this pick.
I feel like the girl who wanted the dangerous and exciting boyfriend and got the boring/safe boyfriend instead.
Did I want something more exciting? Yes. Am I mad we got a starting OT. Not really. He should be a good player. Yes, I wanted the shiny RB, but he wasn’t going to be there regardless.
I just find it hard to believe they couldn’t find a better offer. Or you could have drafted him. And then even tried to trade him. Worst case scenario you’re stuck with possibly the best player in the draft at your biggest position of need.
I’m sure the disappointment of Bijan not being an option factors into my slight disappointment with the pick. I’m ok with the Wright pick, just feel like they didn’t necessarily get the most out of their spot.
You are such a fucking moron. If only you had more grey matter and could understand nuance. I’m not necessarily disappointed in the pick. I’m disappointed in the value (and lack of value) they got. I think Wright is a solid pick, just not the value I think they could have gotten there. And for the 12th time, they got a lot more for tanking than Darnell Wright you freaking moron.
Bitter? Wouldn’t go that far. Underwhelming. That fits. I’d rate yesterday’s 1st round a 7.5. I just expected a 9 or better. I don’t mind Darnell Wright. Just don’t think they got good value for the 9th pick.
Could they have gotten a Chase Young and the 16th pick for Jalen Carter and a 4th rounder? I sure hope they tried.
Again, Spark. I don’t hate the way it turned out. I just think it could have been “better,” and should have been better. I think Poles blinked.
But you know what? Out of good faith I’ll just assume we have all the information possibly available (we don’t), and say well done by the Bears.
All I’m saying is I feel yesterday could have gone better. Was it a bad day for the Bears? No, I wouldn’t say that at all.
I don't find anything "objectionable" there. Again I just feel like there was more value to be had re: Carter. Maybe there wasn't. I'm confident Poles isn't inept enough not to have not tested the waters on a Carter trade down weeks or days ago. I do think it's a bad look when you just made the best team in your conference better for a day 3 pick. As I said, the more I've thought about it, it makes me think Poles was on the Darnell Wright no matter what train.
I still give the Bears a passing grade on the day. Just think it could have been better. Perhaps I'm wrong.
I was only halfway through the draft thread....
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No.
Maybe Jobu can handle it.
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I was only halfway through the draft thread....
90% of what you just shared was my disappointment in them not getting more (value) for the 10th pick. Which I acknowledged that was one of my “beefs” a mere 5 posts or so ago.
Read your post again. I was not upset with the pick. I was surprised they gave away Carter for next to nothing.
Yes, i wanted Bijan. Unfortunately he wasn’t even an option as he was off the board. Again, nuance not really your thing. Where in those posts did I say I was unhappy with the draft overall?
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Maybe Jobu can handle it.
Seems he spends most of his time scrolling my feed, so he’ll have to change his Twitter habits.
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“Did I want something more exciting? Yes. Am I mad we got a starting OT. Not really. He should be a good player. Yes, I wanted the shiny RB, but he wasn’t going to be there regardless.“ - Tempo34
Reading is hard for ThePAMan.
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I don’t remember being “upset” with the Bear draft. I only questioned the return for the 10th pick. And I also questioned the Roschon Johnson pick, but it’s a 4th rounder so not a big deal. Plus after reading the reviews on Johnson I felt better about it after the fact.
Posted an hour or so ago. Before PAMan “owned” me with his “finds.”
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Now go back and maybe find something where I am upset about the actual draft picks (minus Roschon, which at first I did not like).
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Again, for the dullards here; I didn’t dislike the Wright pick. I just thought Carter could have returned more value (and didn’t like that they gave the best team in the NFC arguably the best player in the draft for next to nothing). That was by far my biggest problem with the draft.
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90% of what you just shared was my disappointment in them not getting more (value) for the 10th pick. Which I acknowledged that was one of my “beefs” a mere 5 posts or so ago.
Read your post again. I was not upset with the pick. I was surprised they gave away Carter for next to nothing.
Yes, i wanted Bijan. Unfortunately he wasn’t even an option as he was off the board. Again, nuance not really your thing. Where in those posts did I say I was unhappy with the draft overall?
It was not all about Carter or Bijan. You were underwhelmed with it before you changed your tune. We saw the 7 Stages of Grief play out.
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It was not all about Carter or Bijan. You were underwhelmed with it before you changed your tune. We saw the 7 Stages of Grief play out.
I was by and large pretty good with the draft. I think I gave it a B+ when it was over. Yes, it didn’t go exactly as I wanted.
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As I am seeing things online that The Wingback is having difficulties throwing the ball 7 on 7 against the Bear D, including a The Score personality allegedly saying he is disappointed so far in the short and medium throws, figured we may as well get a start on this.
Can the Bear get Caleb? Any predictions on the current unknown who will be the hot QB commodity in the 2024 NFL Draft?
Justin Fields has a “bad day” while completing 85% of his passes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTqMwIg4lcA
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Wasn’t Adam Hoge the one Olin Kreutz grabbed by the neck?
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Saw PAMan commenting on this from a million miles away. I was surprised it took till this afternoon, though.
Jeff Joniak said Fields was 15 for 18 yesterday. PAMan also conveniently left out that the reporter who reported this said Fields looked really good for most of two weeks and has built up a great report with DJ Moore. Still working on consistency with other receivers (keep in mind Claypool and Mooney are not practicing). Same reporter also mentioned that the defense has looked sharp and that the offense is running on a limited playbook and the defense is probably taking advantage of that (seeing repetitive plays).
Also, Fields was reportedly sharp today. TrollMan gonna troll.
https://twitter.com/dave_bfr/status/1669481891714482184?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
This didn't age well
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This didn't age well
Maybe Getsy is a better play-caller in camp than in the regular season.
Keep in mind, they were going against the Bears’ defense.