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Title: At the Bucknuts
Post by: No one in Mn on February 26, 2023, 11:07:57 AM
Epps, the guy transferring out, gets the start.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: No one in Mn on February 26, 2023, 11:53:52 AM
41 pts for tOSU. lol.
23-9 rebounding advantage.
24-12 points in the paint.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: No one in Mn on February 26, 2023, 12:47:00 PM
Freshmen Sensabaugh and Thornton with 27 and 10.
TSJ and Mayer with 21 and 7.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: No one in Mn on February 26, 2023, 01:05:51 PM
Outplayed for 39 minutes or so.
smdh.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: Jobu on February 27, 2023, 02:41:33 PM
Well, that was a massive pile of shit.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: Reacher on February 27, 2023, 02:51:29 PM
Why does this team have to get dogwhipped for 25 minutes almost every game before they get engaged? Can't remember seeing a team quite like this one, even in the bad years of Weber and Groce. This team is too talented to be used and abused so often.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: ILLove1997 on February 27, 2023, 02:53:48 PM
Well, that was a massive pile of shit.

yep

that fucking sucked
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: IVMP on February 27, 2023, 03:04:57 PM
Illinois did not guard hard during the first half.

This team sucks so much, and Underwearwood didn't exactly shine in the second half. Trying to time substitutions is dicey until the last couple minutes of the game, but he ended up with Shannon out of the game on offense and then back in on D when he was in foul trouble.

I especially liked the part where the team was chucking 3s left and right, but then at the end of the game when they needed to be doing just that, they decided to pass  the ball around.

Dainja is a liability at this point.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: illiniray on February 27, 2023, 03:12:31 PM
Epps, the guy transferring out, gets the start.

Was the site down for you at all?
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: ThePAMan on February 27, 2023, 03:25:49 PM
Was the site down for you at all?

It was for me.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: Custard on February 27, 2023, 04:07:18 PM
The hosting company I use had a scheduled maintenance. I did not know it was coming because the email went to my spam folder. Sorry.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: illiniray on February 27, 2023, 04:26:11 PM
On any given day, our resident #1 prick is sort of right about this year's team. They do suck at times. However, the talent is there.

They are shooting 45% on 59 shots per game. 56% on 34 twos; 31% on 25 threes. Hmmm?

He is obviously wrong about Rodgers and Mayer.

He is right about Clark, but most likely for the wrong reasons.

His Dainja / Pruitt comparison made no sense.

Something is off with Dainja though,  since the hard fall, and it is more than the NW double team.

...
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: FaninCa on February 27, 2023, 04:42:51 PM
This team is 320th in 3's. 

The coach needs to devise a better offensive scheme.  Can't have 40% of the offense relying on 3's.

Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: frankiew on February 27, 2023, 04:59:20 PM
watched like 4 min of game

That was enough
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: Illinifan5775 on February 27, 2023, 05:30:14 PM
watched like 4 min of game

That was enough
Watched 40 minutes of this game. That was too much. This team's play is infuriating. Constantly being beaten on d with back door cuts. Can't guard one on one.  Stand around the 3 point line on offense. Catch up to only being down 1 point and then OS goes on a run. As someone mentioned, Shannon put back in the game to play D and has 4 fouls. Dumb.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: frankiew on February 27, 2023, 05:35:30 PM
Watched 40 minutes of this game. That was too much. This team's play is infuriating. Constantly being beaten on d with back door cuts. Can't guard one on one.  Stand around the 3 point line on offense. Catch up to only being down 1 point and then OS goes on a run. As someone mentioned, Shannon put back in the game to play D and has 4 fouls. Dumb.


I went to Drake @ Bradley. Was a fun game , great atmosphere
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: Miles Leonard on February 27, 2023, 07:13:51 PM
Oh hey we're live again!

Well that game sucked. We should know by now that doing thing we suck at the most over and over again with little success is not a formula for winning games. We want to be a three point shooting team that sucks at shooting them.

10 seed here we come.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: No one in Mn on February 27, 2023, 10:52:05 PM
Was the site down for you at all?
It was up for the whole game for me.
I was thinking it was my ranting during the tOSU game that shut the site down, but it was odd that nobody logged on the whole game.

Jay Wright explained bringing TSJ in. If we didn't get a stop in play, TSJ wouldn't be able to come in. I wasn't paying attention to our time out or foul situation, but it sounded good.

New announcers, same old same old. This team has the potential blah, blah, blah, blah.
Nobody wants to play us blah, blah, blah, blah.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: No one in Mn on February 27, 2023, 10:57:44 PM
Jay Wright: Illinois shoots a lot of 3s, but it's not the percentage that matters. If you make 10, that's 30 points.
What if you go 1-14 in the 2nd half ? Lol.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: Custard on February 27, 2023, 11:42:58 PM
It’s really upsetting Brad continues to let them sling so many threes.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: Chickengeorge on February 28, 2023, 08:11:24 AM
If there's a more frustrating Illini squad, I'd like to know which one.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: Jobu on February 28, 2023, 08:28:48 AM
If there's a more frustrating Illini squad, I'd like to know which one.

They're definitely easy to dislike.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: IVMP on February 28, 2023, 09:09:55 AM
Jay Wright: Illinois shoots a lot of 3s, but it's not the percentage that matters. If you make 10, that's 30 points.
What if you go 1-14 in the 2nd half ? Lol.

This theory is badly flawed. First, percentage certainly matters. Second, missed 3s generally lead to longer rebounds that give the other team an advantage in setting up an offense before the D can set up.

Third, Illinois often guns 3s without making many passes, or even considering strategy. At the end of the half at Columbus, Mayer gunned a 3 when the team should have been holding for the last shot.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: illiniray on February 28, 2023, 10:19:12 AM
Jay Wright: Illinois shoots a lot of 3s, but it's not the percentage that matters. If you make 10, that's 30 points.
What if you go 1-14 in the 2nd half ? Lol.

This team has to take 34 3 point shots to make 10 threes and score 30 points. Whereas 34 two point shots  will yield, on average, 38 points.

That is oversimplified, because two point shots also draw more fouls. Also, going inside out improves the 3 point percentage. In addition, bad missed threes create transition offense for the opponent.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: No one in Mn on February 28, 2023, 10:58:25 AM
This team has to take 34 3 point shots to make 10 threes and score 30 points. Whereas 34 two point shots  will yield, on average, 38 points.

That is oversimplified, because two point shots also draw more fouls. Also, going inside out improves the 3 point percentage. In addition, bad missed threes create transition offense for the opponent.
Controlling tempo works if you're making 3s and is a lot easier to do getting 2s and drawing fouls.
True, missed 3s too often lead to long rebounds and run-outs for the other team. Missed 3s also mean you don't get back to set up defense.
Underwood's teams look best when the defense is solid.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: ILLove1997 on February 28, 2023, 11:30:37 AM
Jay Wright: Illinois shoots a lot of 3s, but it's not the percentage that matters. If you make 10, that's 30 points.
What if you go 1-14 in the 2nd half ? Lol.

I would just like to add, Jay Wright is a horrible color commentator

Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: ThePAMan on February 28, 2023, 11:47:37 AM
This team has to take 34 3 point shots to make 10 threes and score 30 points. Whereas 34 two point shots  will yield, on average, 38 points.

That is oversimplified, because two point shots also draw more fouls. Also, going inside out improves the 3 point percentage. In addition, bad missed threes create transition offense for the opponent.

Are you going to confuse IVMP with your use of statistics?
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: illiniray on February 28, 2023, 11:58:35 AM
Are you going to confuse IVMP with your use of statistics?

IDKWTI
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: ThePAMan on February 28, 2023, 11:59:46 AM
IDKWTI

Not Eric Gordon, IVMP/Legends.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: frankiew on February 28, 2023, 12:05:39 PM
There's a very good chance we end up at 19-13 going into NCAA tourney
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: illinicalvin on February 28, 2023, 12:25:20 PM
I would just like to add, Jay Wright is a horrible color commentator
I swear to Christ at one point he said he was happy to see us still out there chucking 3s and I wanted to put my boot in his face because shooting 3s is the last thing this team needs.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: illinicalvin on February 28, 2023, 12:26:43 PM
Since the site was down for me, my one post-game contribution was going to be "holy hell we suck" and then I was going to go about my lovely Sunday otherwise.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: IVMP on February 28, 2023, 01:32:25 PM
Are you going to confuse IVMP with your use of statistics?

I actually agree with a lot of what it said, although it looks silly when it repeats things in order to pretend it has people on ignore.

But the 3-point shot in its current format didn't come along until 1987, so Nichi's residual "knowledge" of all things 1957 doesn't confuse it as much when it's discussing that topic.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: IVMP on February 28, 2023, 02:06:21 PM
Are you going to confuse IVMP with your use of statistics?

Also, I think you have me confused with about half of the rest of the board.

Temp0, for example, seems to think statistics are simply manipulatives to a point. They are like clothes on a Barbie doll to him.

Nichi is shocked to discover that overall statistics can and do change during a game.

Then you have people like Chico who think a statistic is a topping at the potato bar.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: ThePAMan on February 28, 2023, 02:11:07 PM
Also, I think you have me confused with about half of the rest of the board.

Temp0, for example, seems to think statistics are simply manipulatives to a point. They are like clothes on a Barbie doll to him.

Nichi is shocked to discover that overall statistics can and do change during a game.

Then you have people like Chico who think a statistic is a topping at the potato bar.

Who is Chico supposed to be?
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: illiniray on February 28, 2023, 03:23:55 PM
Who is Chico supposed to be?

You keep quoting them and I wind up reading their  comments. (Note the pc pronouns).

They are clearly having trouble coming up with any good taunts. Are they still heckling LK about guard hard? If so, does anyone point out LK left?

Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: IVMP on February 28, 2023, 03:55:39 PM
You keep quoting them and I wind up reading their  comments. (Note the pc pronouns).

They are clearly having trouble coming up with any good taunts. Are they still heckling LK about guard hard? If so, does anyone point out LK left?

Does anyone point out to you that it's no longer 1955?
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2023, 06:47:06 PM
Who is Chico supposed to be?

Only Chico I know of is Ron Rivera.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: ThePAMan on February 28, 2023, 07:33:09 PM
Only Chico I know of is Ron Rivera.

Freddie Prinz is dead.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: FaninCa on February 28, 2023, 07:47:54 PM
Jay Wright: Illinois shoots a lot of 3s, but it's not the percentage that matters. If you make 10, that's 30 points.
What if you go 1-14 in the 2nd half ? Lol.

Yeah. Weird comment by Wright.

Need to shoot at least 35% to justify the amount of 3's this team shoots.

31% as a team is pitiful. Even more pitiful is about 40% of their shots are 3's.
Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: No one in Mn on February 28, 2023, 08:22:16 PM
Yeah. Weird comment by Wright.

Need to shoot at least 35% to justify the amount of 3's this team shoots.

31% as a team is pitiful. Even more pitiful is about 40% of their shots are 3's.
Also too bad that Harris may have gotten the green light to shoot 3s disease. He was 0-3 vs tOSU.
I hope he gets over it soon.

Title: Re: At the Bucknuts
Post by: ThePAMan on February 28, 2023, 08:50:25 PM
Also too bad that Harris may have gotten the green light to shoot 3s disease. He was 0-3 vs tOSU.
I hope he gets over it soon.

"Low confidence" that the disease is curable by Underachiever