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Title: Hoo-siers
Post by: ILLove1997 on February 17, 2023, 06:44:26 PM
11am cst tomorrow

Hope we can play better and maybe learn how to deny tjd the fucking ball this game
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: illiniray on February 17, 2023, 07:42:43 PM
Another early start.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Miles Leonard on February 17, 2023, 08:42:07 PM
11 AM? Yeah we're fucked. Probably the case no matter what time we start.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Jobu on February 18, 2023, 08:34:37 AM
TSJ is out
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ridingthegrange on February 18, 2023, 09:29:46 AM
TSJ is out

Well, some of these young wings need the work.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 10:39:23 AM
 
TSJ is out
No big deal. He only scored 26, 40% of our points, vs the Hoosiers earlier.
It couldn't be TJD is out. Could it ?   :D
Nah.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on February 18, 2023, 10:46:28 AM
Well, some of these young wings need the work.
And need to have decent games. Knock off turning over the ball so much, their bad habit for road play. And quit the over doing the 3 shooting. And make
Ife tough for TJD.



Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Reacher on February 18, 2023, 11:13:24 AM
Who is this game not on the radio in Chicago?
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 11:16:06 AM
Who is this game not on the radio in Chicago?

You skipped 890 WLS on your preset stations?
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Judge Judy on February 18, 2023, 11:16:39 AM
Melendez has missed 4 fucking bunnies. What the fuck
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 11:16:47 AM
May as well shoot 3s if can't make layups.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 11:17:32 AM
Has Hawkins even been coached by this staff?
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Reacher on February 18, 2023, 11:22:07 AM
You skipped 890 WLS on your preset stations?

Unless they joined the game already in progress it’s not on. The game had already started and I was getting talk radio.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Reacher on February 18, 2023, 11:22:33 AM
Lol it’s on now. What a clown show.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 11:29:01 AM
Reminds me of telling the guys in the other boat how to listen to the football game vs Wisco. And we're 75 miles south of the north coast. Lol
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on February 18, 2023, 11:35:41 AM
Melendez has missed 4 fucking bunnies. What the fuck
Absolutely sucks.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on February 18, 2023, 11:40:28 AM
Unless they joined the game already in progress it’s not on. The game had alsocks.
started and I was getting talk radio.
Playing old recordings of Larry Lujack?
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Reacher on February 18, 2023, 11:51:21 AM
Playing old recordings of Larry Lujack?

It was business talk I think. Leaked several minutes into the game.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 11:52:07 AM
Epps and RJM 1-11. Ouch.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 11:55:10 AM
Winning the turnover and rebounding battles, 5 vs 8 turnovers and 19-17 on the boards.

(https://i.ibb.co/5vBK7gQ/Screenshot-20230218-075221.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6bgXd7K)
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on February 18, 2023, 11:57:53 AM
Epps and RJM 1-11. Ouch.
What has happened to Epps?

Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Dominic on February 18, 2023, 11:58:20 AM
I’m not much of a believer in addition by subtraction, but I do believe Hawkins leaving would make Illinois better. 

The guy is dumb, he’s coached terribly, and never held accountable by the staff.  Hawkins is like a baseball player that is fast, but only has a .280 OBP, and the manager bats him lead off bc he “looks” like a lead off hitter.  Despite the stats saying he can’t hit.  Hawkins “looks” like a basketball player but he’s not.

And I don’t get if it’s black history month Myron Medcalf shouldn’t be doing this game
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on February 18, 2023, 12:04:21 PM

It was business talk I think. Leaked several minutes into the game.
Brian Barnhart still doing radio play by play?
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 12:05:24 PM
What has happened to Epps?


Tough day so far. Bloomington for a freshman ?
Rushed a couple 3s early and can't get to the bucket for layups.
Fortunately no turnovers, but he's tried.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Dominic on February 18, 2023, 12:06:00 PM
The PBP guy is Brian Custer.  Never heard of him but he’s terrible
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 12:10:14 PM
That lane violation was an easy call
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 12:13:00 PM
The PBP guy is Brian Custer.  Never heard of him but he’s terrible

He's just as generic as the rest of them.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 12:18:02 PM
Melendez, oy vey
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on February 18, 2023, 12:18:52 PM
Tough day so far. Bloomington for a freshman ?
Rushed a couple 3s early and can't get to the bucket for layups.
Fortunately no turnovers, but he's tried.
Good to see him go to the hole starting 2nd half. Bloomington always tough place. Good point about not turning the ball over, a big plus.
Jeez Melendez.

Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: jayboek on February 18, 2023, 12:19:13 PM
Tell me again why in the hell is Melendez playing???
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Judge Judy on February 18, 2023, 12:21:09 PM
Melendez is just flat out broken.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Miles Leonard on February 18, 2023, 12:22:04 PM
Melendez. Oof. You can't get any more wide open than that.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: FaninCa on February 18, 2023, 12:25:24 PM
Melendez is unplayable.

Another big game from Mayer.  Seems he's been the best offensive player since the Texas game.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Reacher on February 18, 2023, 12:25:42 PM
Brian Barnhart still doing radio play by play?

Yes
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on February 18, 2023, 12:28:38 PM
Tell me again why in the hell is Melendez playing???
And Goode is sitting? Melendez has stunk all year.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: FaninCa on February 18, 2023, 12:29:49 PM
Tell me again why in the hell is Melendez playing???

Underwood's a stubborn man.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: jayboek on February 18, 2023, 12:29:58 PM
Why 2 straight shots by Harris???
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 12:34:57 PM
Just put the ball in Epps' hands
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on February 18, 2023, 12:35:04 PM
Yes
I figured he was still there but wasn't sure. Haven't listened to the radio feed on the Illini sports network in years.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 12:37:56 PM
Just put the ball in Epps' hands
Say wut ?
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 12:38:15 PM
Yell, Brad, yell!
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: FaninCa on February 18, 2023, 12:39:01 PM
Yell, Brad, yell!

Underwood's coaching in the wrong era. 
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Judge Judy on February 18, 2023, 12:39:19 PM
Epps just shoulder checked Underwood after that screaming match😳
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: FaninCa on February 18, 2023, 12:40:09 PM
Dainja is a liability on defense against IU.

Need to put Hawkins on TJD.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 12:40:56 PM
Every possession matters and Epps just heard that. No big deal.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: FaninCa on February 18, 2023, 12:43:00 PM
Dainja needs to sit.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 12:43:10 PM
Who is he going to yell at now?
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 12:47:13 PM
Just go back up with the ball Hawkins
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 12:52:03 PM
Who is Goode crappin on that one?
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 12:53:23 PM
Why is Goode hacking on that one?
Fixed it for ya
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 01:01:48 PM
Another great offensive call by Underachiever
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Reacher on February 18, 2023, 01:07:17 PM
I hope everyone has their cups on
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: FaninCa on February 18, 2023, 01:09:27 PM
Draw up a 3 for Mayer.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 01:10:04 PM
Drive to the bucket.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 01:10:12 PM
Dont let Dainja touch the ball
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: FaninCa on February 18, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
Wow Epps got bailed out.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 01:11:21 PM
Cheater's proof
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Judge Judy on February 18, 2023, 01:12:39 PM
How about those free shots.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 01:13:01 PM
Free shot shooting is irrelevant!
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 01:13:57 PM
Why is Melendez shooting much less on the floor???
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 01:14:23 PM
We came to play. That's a plus.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: FaninCa on February 18, 2023, 01:14:36 PM
Perfect ending. Fuck you Brad for playing Melendez.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Dominic on February 18, 2023, 01:14:49 PM
If you are Indiana, and you are up 3, how are you not fouling?

That was such dumb basketball.  Honestly both teams deserved to lose
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Miles Leonard on February 18, 2023, 01:15:23 PM
RJ is unplayable. You won't get that many open looks in one game.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: wonky73 on February 18, 2023, 01:15:39 PM
Fun game
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 01:15:55 PM
We came to play. That's a plus.

Too bad got Underachievered. 2d half O stunk.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 01:17:17 PM
Shooting 35% in the 2nd half won't beat too many top 20 teams on the road
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 01:18:28 PM
I think they will be better next year without Underachiever.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 01:20:50 PM
30% from 3. That might be good enough for page 7 in fg %.
Hang a banner.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Jrock74 on February 18, 2023, 01:20:54 PM
Snatched defeat from the Jaws of victory once again.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Miles Leonard on February 18, 2023, 01:23:36 PM
Next two games are must wins in my book.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ILLove1997 on February 18, 2023, 01:33:44 PM
Is RJ point shaving or what
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 01:35:21 PM
Is RJ point shaving or what

And what about the coach throwing him out there at the end?
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Reacher on February 18, 2023, 01:42:27 PM
Free shot shooting is irrelevant!

No one ever said. Having said that, they shot it well from the line today.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ILLove1997 on February 18, 2023, 01:43:04 PM
And what about the coach throwing him out there at the end?

I mean I get it, try and boost his confidence a bit, but he flat out was a massive negative all game.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Reacher on February 18, 2023, 01:43:32 PM
I think they will be better next year without Underachiever.

After Texas steals him?
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Dominic on February 18, 2023, 01:47:38 PM
After Texas steals him?

They can always hope LSU signs him
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Reacher on February 18, 2023, 01:48:35 PM
I think this would be a decent time to lose a decent coach. Some good young coaches out there. Not just one “hot guy” like Shaka.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Dominic on February 18, 2023, 01:51:33 PM
TJD gets 26 and 12.

Underwood "I thought we did a great job on Trace"

lol guy is clueless
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Miles Leonard on February 18, 2023, 01:53:18 PM
After Texas steals him?

Notre Dame
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: FaninCa on February 18, 2023, 01:58:40 PM
And what about the coach throwing him out there at the end?

Well the plan had to be either steal the ball or foul and then sub out Melendez before the free throws.

I would have preferred putting Harris in. At least he can make a layup, if they stole the ball. 

Melendez may be a good kid, but he's unplayable.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Gokuwearsorange/blue on February 18, 2023, 02:03:16 PM
Underwood starting Melendez blew up in his face.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on February 18, 2023, 02:12:16 PM
And what about the coach throwing him out there at the end?
Throwing him out there made me throw up. Horrible.  A winnable game puked away.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: FaninCa on February 18, 2023, 02:17:22 PM
Podziemski is considered a top 100 draft prospect by ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/4

Good thing Brad wouldn't play him due to his defense. Lol
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Illinifan5775 on February 18, 2023, 02:17:52 PM
After Texas steals him?
Way too many blown games, not prepared games , starting with 2021 NCAA tourney.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Reacher on February 18, 2023, 02:36:18 PM
Way too many blown games, not prepared games , starting with 2021 NCAA tourney.

Don’t tell Custard.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 02:58:42 PM
Mayer, Goode or Epps would have been better picks, but there's a reason the Hoosiers left RJM open.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ThePAMan on February 18, 2023, 03:06:53 PM
Don’t tell Custard.

That's going to leave a mark...
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Dominic on February 18, 2023, 05:25:46 PM
Upon review of the box score, the only positive I saw is Hawkins took 0 threes. That’s a start to having more efficient offense: Bad shooters stop shooting bad 3pt shots
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Custard on February 18, 2023, 06:37:27 PM
That's going to leave a mark...

🤔
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: IVMP on February 18, 2023, 08:58:16 PM
Underwood starting Melendez blew up in his face.

That made zero sense. He needs to audition for team manager.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Reacher on February 18, 2023, 09:24:59 PM
That made zero sense. He needs to audition for team manager.

Underwood, or Melendez?
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Reacher on February 18, 2023, 09:26:14 PM
🤔

Stems back to when I said Underwood was unlikely to be pursued by Texas, and it seemed to hurt you in the Illini feels pretty good. Apparently PAMan remembers. 
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Jrock74 on February 18, 2023, 09:29:06 PM
RJ had no business being on the court.  It's why Indiana left him open. What is he now 1 for his last 23 3 point attempts.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Jrock74 on February 18, 2023, 09:30:56 PM
Penn state sweeping us is looking better and better by the minute Smh. Minnesota up on them in the 2nd half. 
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Jrock74 on February 18, 2023, 09:48:22 PM
Psu with a 19-9 run up 6 now 4 mins left
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 18, 2023, 10:34:27 PM
Sitting in 8th place, tied with Sparty.
And a 2-3, or worse  finish is a distinct possibility.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Jrock74 on February 18, 2023, 11:39:13 PM
Agreed.  19-12. 10-10 will get us in.  Albeit a Double digit seed. 

Michigan got a big one tonight against Michigan St.  Big tournament should be highly entertaining. 
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ridingthegrange on February 19, 2023, 09:20:15 AM
We played hard and almost stole a road conference game against a ranked rival.  TSJ plays and there's a different outcome.  Lotsa hand wringing going here.  I agree with Robbie; no one wants to draw us in tourney. 
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 19, 2023, 10:17:28 AM
It's taken us 70 more 3 point shots in conference play to make 3 more than our opponents. 70 shots to score 9 points.
In conference, we're shooting 29% from 3 while the opponents are shooting 35%.
Hawkins at 28%, TSJ at 27%, RJM at 23% and Epps at 22%.
We're last among conference teams for the season in assists/turnovers in NCAA stats. And there are some bad teams below us.

We may be looking at a 9th place finish and a 1st round game vs 1 of the Michigan teams.
I'm not sure anyone is afraid of us.

I'm not sure I've seen any predictions of 9 Big10 teams in the NCAAs.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: Dominic on February 19, 2023, 12:10:12 PM
no one wants to draw us in tourney.

Why?  Illinois is a bad 3 point shooting team.  Bad at free throws.  Turns the ball over a lot.  And is 2-9 when giving up at least 70 points.

If they had played anything tougher than by far the easiest schedule in the Big 10, they’d already be out of the tourney.

People point to the UCLA and Texas wins.  Texas was a miracle. 

Look at the losses:

Down 35 vs Mizzou
Down 24 vs Penn State
Down 17 vs Penn State
Down 21 vs Indiana

The floor is very low for this team.  The ceiling has been grinding out games vs other average or bad teams that can’t score

No team is scared of Brad Ubderwood in the NCAA tourney.  He barely beat Chattanooga last year. Had to escape a buzzer beating miss



Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ILLINICHIEF on February 22, 2023, 08:55:14 PM
It's taken us 70 more 3 point shots in conference play to make 3 more than our opponents. 70 shots to score 9 points.
In conference, we're shooting 29% from 3 while the opponents are shooting 35%.
Hawkins at 28%, TSJ at 27%, RJM at 23% and Epps at 22%.
We're last among conference teams for the season in assists/turnovers in NCAA stats. And there are some bad teams below us.

We may be looking at a 9th place finish and a 1st round game vs 1 of the Michigan teams.
I'm not sure anyone is afraid of us.

I'm not sure I've seen any predictions of 9 Big10 teams in the NCAAs.

With current USA Today Bracketology - https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2023/02/21/bracketology-north-carolina-out-ncaa-tournament-big-ten-nine/11273289002/

I got Michigan St winning, Purdue winning, Rutgers toss-up, but winning with guards, Iowa St winning, Northwestern loses, Maryland wins, Indiana wins, Wisky loses, Iowa loses, Illinois wins but loses to AZ in 2nd round.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: IVMP on February 23, 2023, 12:04:07 PM
With current USA Today Bracketology - https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2023/02/21/bracketology-north-carolina-out-ncaa-tournament-big-ten-nine/11273289002/

I got Michigan St winning, Purdue winning, Rutgers toss-up, but winning with guards, Iowa St winning, Northwestern loses, Maryland wins, Indiana wins, Wisky loses, Iowa loses, Illinois wins but loses to AZ in 2nd round.

Buttgers won't defeat COK in a first-round game. Too much Oscar. Although it would be fun to see COK get bounced again in the first round.
Title: Re: Hoo-siers
Post by: ILLINICHIEF on February 23, 2023, 02:27:08 PM
Buttgers won't defeat COK in a first-round game. Too much Oscar. Although it would be fun to see COK get bounced again in the first round.

Fair point, I think they win, simply because they have talented AND experienced guards and several of them...NCAA success there. Besides their big guy may have something to say about it as well/.